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OK, here are other similiarities you fail to see or dismiss.

Misleading intelligence and false information was used to justify waging war against both nations.

Nationalism and disgust at foriegn colonialism and occupation fuels a great deal of the resentment to our military occupation of both of these countries.

The guerillas and peaceful natives are usually indistinguishable from each other so our pacification of the country is sure to involve a lot of the nasty police state tactics like the ones behind operation phoenix in vietnam and the ones we so criticized Saddam for using so the resentment of the US occupation by the natives is certain to grow.

Just like in vietnam iraq's border is porous and there are a lot of surrounding countries who are certain to supply munitions and support to the iraqi guerilla cause.

How were our 'police actions' in Vietnam any different than our current feable attempts at policing and keeping order in Iraq? The goals in both countries were identical; set up a US friendly government that would maintain the colonial order preferred by western nations despite the fact that the majority of the people in the nation do not want us there or calling the shots for their country.

The rest of your post appears to me nothing more than jingoistic statements that have little do with the facts concerning the US occupation of iraq.

For example, from your statements you seem to be unaware that Iraq was one of the few secular arab countries where people had religious freedom and anyone including women could seek a higher education if they had the money or scholarships to do so (like here in the ol USA).

Yes, soldiers have died in the past to protect our freedoms, but that does not give our government cart blank to wage war with the rest of the planet when our current corrupt regime can't even run this country right.

There are places in the US that are just as bad as in iraq. Drug lords and religious fanatics kill and extort people and control territory here in our own country, but these facts do not bode well when people are trying to use these facts about other parts of the world to justify wars that promote US hegemony.

If you need a good case in point as to whether the US can win this war any time soon just look to how well the several decade occupation of the palestinian territories is working out for the Zionist state of Israel.

To think 9/11 was used to justify this attrocity in the making when Iraq had nothing to do with it just goes to show how low people in the Bush administration are willing to go to promote a war that their hawks have been promoting for over a decade.

I can't help but notice that you quote Teddy concerning righteousness and peace when his regime was rife with neither.

While you state it would be a shame to leave Iraq before we finish putting another puppet police state in to replace the last one we put in place there, vietnam has turned out pretty well despite our exit if we don't count all of the birth defects from the tons of dioxin we left behind in the form of agent orange and the unexploded munitions that still kill and maim a few viliagers every now and then.