Maybe I should have just stuck with my discussion on turbochargers.
I wasn't going to reply to this because it is quite obvious that we see things so completely different that this an exercise in futility. But.....if I don't respond it would appear that I can't. So here goes:
Misleading and false information.......that is a great soundbyte and a wonderful statement if you can get away with it. Did he mislead congress when he got an overwhelmingly affirmative vote to use force in Iraq? Or was congress just stupid enough to not do any research prior to their vote? Whatever. But I will agree that Kennedy was way out of his depth when he sent troops to Vietnam.
Nationalism and a disgust of foreign colonialism.........Huh? This made me think of Monty Python's Holy Grail, when King Arthur was trucking through the fields and got into a serious political debate with a peasant farmer. I think they hated the fact that we were running over their rice paddys with our tanks, doing something they couldn't understand. But you're right they weren't too happy we were there, Iraqis are learning the difference.
Which of Saddam's police state tactics are we using? I mean exactly, did we fire up the woodchipper that Uday and his brother used to use? Or maybe we just started our own mass graves in between the ones Saddam had. Right. Oh, I forgot, are we using the seek and destroy techniques we used in Vietnam?
The goals in both countries were identical........similar maybe, we were supporting the standing government in Vietnam in fact using their military. We were initially "advisors" remeber? In Iraq, we are trying to help them to become self governing. Oh yeah and we declared war in Iraq.
Jingoistic......I bet you could kick my ass in scrabble.
Iraq is like "the good old USA"????????? Are you kidding me? I guess you think the berlin wall was built to keep the capitalists OUT of the wonderful agrarian community in east germany. Right. I'm speechless, really this is the most amazing thing I have ever heard.
To compare Iraqs border to vietnam, there would have to be NO border on Iran (for example) and make it illegal for the US to enter there. There is no comparison here. And this is NOT why we are asking the UN if they would like to help us.
Current corrupt regime.......a regime implies an authoritarian government. You may not like him, but Bush was ELECTED in case you missed it. Now please don't start whining about how the election was "stolen" by the supreme court. Thats another thread altogether. And our status gives us not only the right to protect ourselves but the obligation to help others.
There are places in the US that are as bad as Iraq.....name one. Name me one place in this country where you are not protected by the rights afforded you in the constitution. Give me one example of this. I guess this is the reason we have uncontrollable immigratio TO this country right? This is such a miserable place to live, oh won't someone please come and rescue us from our oppressors. This has left the boundries of good judgement.
Now we are comparing this to Israel? The last time I heard them referred to as "zionist" was a bald guy in a brown shirt and combat boots, not exactly who I'd like to align myself with if I were you.
This atrocity in the making..........so, we're committing atrocities but Saddam wanted freedom of religion and an education for all who can afford it. Unbelieveable.
How did I figure you wouldn't appreciate a president who opened the door to civil rights and started environment protections. Oh, because he was a republican, I forget sometimes that that's what determines good or bad.
To replace the last one we put in there? Saddam replaced the last government in a bloody coup. Explain this one for me.
As far a vietnam goes, you missed the slaughter in cambodia by Pol Pot or was that completely unrelated to our leaving the region?
Here's a couple more you probably buy:
Nixon resigned because he was directly involved in the Watergate affair, right?
McCarthy was wrong about there being communists in our government, right?
Truman was as responsible as Reagan for the demise of the Soviet Union, right?
Carter was a brilliant diplomat, right?
Castro was the best thing to happen to Cuba, right?
Arafat really wants peace in the middle east, right?
Clinton only lied about unimportant things, right?
Let me just say, I would love to sit down and have a beer with you sometime. That would be fun.
Pete