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your rambling doesn't change the fact that you eat out of dumpsters ...........
it's not about survivalists....you can take half the self proclaimed survivalists and when it comes down to it they will crack and revert to dumpster diving, if you don't really understand you don't stand a chance.
the most you could hope for is that LA will fall in the ocean from an earthquake....
and as far as living in the past..........those are just words from someone who watches too much "trading spaces"