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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Indeed. And which one grabs our attention? The Honda rider's riding is, well, quite unremarkable. Quite boring, actually.

I think what a lot of guys are seeing here is a "Harley rider" spankin' it pretty damn hard. They are as astonished that a "Harley rider" can ride like that as they are that a Harley can go like that. I see a motorcyclist - and a very skilled one at that - who happens to be on a Harley. Hell, it might not even be his. He almost certainly gained that level of skill on sport bikes, and likely on a racetrack to boot.

I think there are some assumptions being made about the Honda rider as well. Who is to say that is not all he's got? The two of them reeled in that first sport bike mounted rider like a dead fish. Yeah, either bike is far more capable than the Harley, but are the riders? Just like buying a guitar does not one a guitarist make, simply owning a sport bike does not make one a sport bike rider. I've lost track of how many I've quite easily out-run on the Road King, as long as it doesn't turn into purely a horsepower contest. Actually, I'll go out on a limb and say the vast majority of sport bike riders I encounter are scared motherless to even begin to push their bikes- unless it's a simple drag race, in a straight line.

But with motorcycles and cars, the debate rages on. How much is skill and how much is equipment?

Not the same in pool or guitars where the cream of the talent rises to the top. A four minute video of talent...the best player in the USA. Born 90% hearing impaired, bullied in school, but he had many friends in the pool hall. Now respected globally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b4PCUAkzIc

Very skilled Harley Rider. But like I posted earlier, sooner or later....