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Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Used one are cheap because as the next hot gadget they were given as gifts to a lot of people who don't use them, then sell them. Even people who buy them find they don't use them after a while. They are a fun gadget, but the fun wears off pretty fast. Time to sell and move on. I would buy a cheap one, see how much I use it and decide if I use it enough to justify buying a better one.

Pretty much nailed it. I have a feeling I would not use it much after the initial novelty wears off so definitely don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on it.

Originally Posted by sugarwood

For MC or car vids, you may prefer a dashcam like Mobius.
GoPro is sort of big and clumsy.

Originally Posted by motion

I've had all the GoPros, except the latest gen. Didn't like them at all. Buggy and clumsy. Those damn housings...

I went with a Garmin VIRB Elite and love it. I stick it on top of my helmet and it has one simple sliding switch to turn on/off. I can reach up easily and turn it on when needed. Easy to do while riding. And, it has GPS overlay built into it. Not sure if the GP5 has that or not.

Was wondering about lower cost and more importantly, less bulky alternatives. The idea of having the big square GP on my helmet does not appeal to me. A small, cylindrical camera would be better. A friend had one that looked like a big deer whistle but can't remember the brand. It cost a fraction of a GP.

Originally Posted by widebody911

I have a Hero 3+. It's "OK" but as other have mentioned, it's clunky by today's standards, and GoPros are at the top of the price range for the segment. My real problem with GoPro is their app aka "Capture" they made a change recently such that you can't use the app without it first contacting GoPro HQ (or some special server) over WiFi. If you're in BFE with no WiFi? Tough *****, sucks to be you. The recently made a change to the app to make it easier, but they didn't actually remove the wifi-connection part: you just have to have connected previously in x amount of time, and when you do get WiFi again, it updates the server with who knows what. For me, the problem is twofold: a) I should be able to use my device without needing to connect to GoPro - there is no actual physical need to connect, it's an artificial constraint b) this artificial constraint was added after I bought the device. The GoPro marketing guys decided they needed to collect user info (to sell) long after they'd sold the device to me, so in effect it's a retroactively-applied usage restriction. i have no say because I've already paid for it, and I'm out of any return or warranty window. My only recourse if I disagree with the new terms of the deal is to get rid of the camera.

So yeah, I won't be buying another GoPro

That sounds like a deal killer to me. Fk all these apps and their data mining. I want something old tech where the content is only on the camera and my computer/device until I decide to post it or YouTube it.

Thanks for all the responses, exactly the info I was seeking.