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Originally Posted by aigel
There are open (no point by) groups in some organizations. But there, the passer is responsible to make sure he doesn't bomb another guy in the middle of a turn. Open groups are the most advanced drivers. You aren't placed in open unless you have a longer history with the organization and a very experienced driver.
I don't know which organization this was? Definitely nobody I'd want to run with. Apparently you can ride in shorts and t-shirt!???
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I very much prefer organizations that require point-bys, even when open passing is allowed in the advanced group. Again, this video highlights exactly why I prefer that. Like the guy says time and time again, this is not a race. It just makes it safer and more enjoyable for everyone involved if there is a bit more communication between drivers on the track. That, and it very much discourages these "racing" passes. Leave those for an actual race, please.
I remember years ago our local PCA "advanced" group kept getting red flagged and our sessions cut short. It was pretty frustrating. There were a few guys in the group that were very clearly racing, and the course marshals recognized it as such. It got to the point one day where the track master threatened to shut down advanced for the rest of the day and give our time to the intermediate and beginner groups. These guys were not just endangering each other, but the rest of the cars out there with them as well. While they managed this in spite of the point-by rule, it did serve to keep at least a bit of a lid on it, when they were passing the rest of us who weren't in their little "race". Racing passes belong in races, corporative passing makes HDPE days safer.