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Originally Posted by fireant911
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Those a both great scopes for just trying out the hobby. They are cheap but the optics are surprisingly good. You will have to learn how to collimate the optics for the best results but its easy to do. As mentioned above, the mount is key to taming the wobbles.
Perhaps a 6" or 8" Dobsonian reflector would be even better. No EQ mount to mess around with, no tracking, just put it on the ground and move it around by hand. Super simple and a great aperture to see a variety of stuff.
Lots of used telescopes like this on craigslist for cheap.0