I may be in the minority though, I still don't think it's that loud without the baffles. Someday, when I have some extra coin burning a hole in my pocket, I thought of having another muffler customer made. Same gt3 external, but whatever baffles are on the inside, I want a lot less of them! If it wasn't for my respectable neighbors, I would run this stinger more often. I put it on once or twice a year for a few runs. Doesn't sound great when letting off the gas at low rpm. Similar to a Ford pinto with a leaky exhaust manifold and rusty muffler. But it's sounds like a full blown rally car above 4K. With a throttle blip between shifts, it gives me chills!