[onewhippedpuppy]

I'm honestly baffled how anyone trades in a car. We have a 2017 Toyota Sienna XLE Premium AWD with 30k in mint condition, loaded with Toyota service records, window sticker, two fobs, clean and clear title, etc. Basically a turn-key car for a dealer, it could go into inventory on day 1. My wife is tired of driving a minivan, and so am I, so we are going to get a Ford Flex Limited Ecoboost which is a really nice driving wagon. For the sake of convenience I considered trading as the book trade in value aligns nicely with the retail value of a low mileage 2016 or 2017 Flex with our desired options. Seems fair, right? So thus far I spoke with a dealer in KS with a left over 2016 demo with 2,500 miles, they made me a low ball trade in offer that was under even Carmax, didn't give me any relief on their Flex from MSRP, then quit calling me back. Second dealer with a left over 2017 demo with X,XXX miles (never could even tell me how many) that made me an even lower offer, didn't move off of MSRP, and didn't call me back. WTF? Seriously, how does anyone in their right mind trade in a car? I can easily sell this thing for at least $4k more than the highest offer, then buy a lightly used Flex for about $16k less than these morons have offered me for comparable cars. I still have access to Manheim auction data so I can even see what similar vans are selling for at wholesale auction, what I'm being offered for trade in would allow these fools to make $5k+ just taking my van to auction. Absolutely insane.