[LEAKYSEALS951]

I have several CF road frames. I used to think frames were just a bunch of tubes and fancy stickers. I was so wrong.

At least on a road bike- you get the comfort AND the responsiveness when you get a tuned frame. There is no trade off. It is lighter, more comfortable, more nimble, and more responsive. It is superlative in all regards.

Now- MTB.... A friend of mine bought a high end CF MTB frame. On his first ride, he rode it into a rock. End of CF frame.

I highly recommend CF road frames. My friend was very agitated his 1st MTB ride cost him about $1500.

On MTB- go durability. You will fall. The bike will hit a rock. The roadie nuances won't matter as much. Just go have fun.

edit- after reading op post- CF is simply wonderful. I would like to make a CF toilet seat if possible. It is just brilliant, until it breaks!