[mjohnson]

Originally Posted by red-beard

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And a MUCH cheaper Gaggia for $300

https://www.wholelattelove.com/refurbished-gaggia-unica-super-automatic-espresso-machine

IDK.

I've shared time with three Juras over the last ten years, at work and at home. So many 10s of thousands of shots and they've always performed. In the grand scheme of things I'd spend the extra for another one. Maybe the Gaggia is good, but it's an unknown (to me).