Would something like this work?

http://www.bellissimoto.com/images/IMG_extender.jpg


Ducati Mirror Extenders

http://www.bellissimoto.com/OberonBillet.html

This extends the mirror out and up.
I still think the S1000RR mirrors look the best.

Cheers

I use an CRG lane splitter on the clutch side bar-end coupled with the stock mirror delete kit. Looks great and works well.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l7...8/0706e648.jpg

Bryan I think that is exactly what the HP2S needs! Fab dudes, raise your hands!


http://www.bellissimoto.com/images/IMG_extender.jpg




As far as the bar end mirror I am sure I would hate it for many reasons.

I have Napoleon bar-ends on my '93 Duc and they're great. I got used to crap mirrors on my 1098, so the HP2S mirrors don't really bother me.

Bar end mirrors are great on certain bikes. Had them on my Megamoto. Got to agree with Shred though...on the HP2S..not so much.

Both LCP and myself tried CRG Arrow bar ends..........although the quality was great.......we still could not see behind that well.
I thought we had the problem solved, but no such luck.
There were also a couple of occasions where we were both surprised by riders suddenly appearing. Not good!!

We have both sold them and still looking for another solution like the Oberon's.

Cheers

Duh NOT GOOD!!! You guys were riding too slow obviously. http://scts.323ci.net/forum/images/smiles/stickpoke.gif

HP2 sport mirror extensions
 

So do we have an agreement on the mirror position? Out 50mm and up 25mm? Does anyone have a donor mirror that they have lying around that I can give to my fab guy? I have already talked with him and shown him this thread and he is going to jump on the CAD drawing after the holidays. A donor mirror would save me from downing my bike. Let me know opinions of dimensions.

I think BigRed bought a couple of spares a while back.........you would just need the lower section for the bolt holes and shape.

Szazbo, how did you arrive at the 50mm and 25mm numbers? I would have to have another look to see how that would work.

Thanks for the poke with a stick Sergio........but riding slowly is the only way in traffic sometimes!
Out on the open road, we never seemed to have a problem.
One of the comments we had from a competant GSXR pilot was how he had his poor little 750 wrung out trying to keep up with a couple of old farts on BMW's.........or something to that effect.

Cheers

That's more like it! http://scts.323ci.net/forum/images/s...e_bmwdance.gif

True dat. I trounced every jap sport bike in Nor Cal. And one HP2S, oppsie, dont hate me for telling the truth.

Peter..........how can I possibly hate you when you are doing such a fine job of my belly pan??

Cheers

OK........now don't laugh too hard.......I had some time and carved up a pair of mirror extenders to see if they would even work.
These are 50mm long, made out of some teflon I had.
I can actually see behind me now................

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The question is..........how can someone put something like this on such an exquisite bike??????

Well.......they do come off easy..........flame on!!

I did some measuring and Szazbo is pretty close with the 50mm out and 25mm up.

Cheers

Are those O-rings on the grips?

If so, what size? I'm kinda over the grip monkeys I put on mine... a tad too thick.

Yup, they remind me of ant antennae; but, those are some interesting sliders.

Sergio;

They are O-rings on the grips.I find them a little too hard.
I am going this route..........

Beemer Buddies handgrip covers group buy for BMW bikes (from Cure for Skinny Grips) - ADVrider

They are not as thick as grip puppies, so for the price it is worth a try. One day left at $20.

Nail;

I like to leave the odd thing in my photo's to see if you guys are paying attention.

I did a lot of work around the front end of the HP2 this fall and after hitting my head on the Euro turn signals, it was time for some protection in the form of pipe insulation.
Those signals are sharp!!

The mirrors do look like antennae, but wasn't there a Star Wars creature that had eyes at the end of stalks?
That is what comes to my mind.

Cheers

Bryan, are you sure you aren't trying to pass off the Hornig items as your own? :D

http://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/BMW-R-1200-S-and-HP2-Sport/Alu-High-grade-Steel/Mirror-Extensions.html

http://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.co...=900&Hoehe=496


I think if you could accurately take a 30 degree slice off this, you could then use the wedge shaped piece on the underside to facilitate mounting. I don't get the o-ring thing at all, especially given you are a biker but to each his own. I actually love the stock grips and find the tactical feedback to be perfect, especially with my Sidi gloves!

Shreddr;

Mine are a copy of the Hornig.........and longer.
I did think about making them angled, but you need 2 different bolt on spots to do that..........I just wanted to try this to see how it worked.

AHHHHHHHH........just reread what you wrote.....an angled cut and then the piece under the fairing would work.
I still think something like the Oberon extenders would be best.

About the o-rings..........I hate the broom stick grips.....the o-rings were a trial and worked pretty good, but with so much weight on my wrists, the o-rings just feel too hard.

Cycling bar tape worked really well on the grips, but the stuff I used was too slippery........still searching for the best set up.

Cheers

I sent Oberon a message and asked if they could do an HP2S version. I am waiting for their reply, group-buy anyone?

S1000 Mirrors on Hp2 Sport
 

Ok here I go again. I posted the video showing the S1000 mirrors on the Sport and really liked the way that they look.You know like stock BMW. A couple of guys on the BMWSR site said that they did the conversion but no pics yet.
I was having some reservations about drilling more holes in the CF especially 11mm holes.
After reading LCP's comments about if they work why would you ever go back to the stockers I decided to take the plunge and order some mirrors and the decouplers.
The decouplers are essentially a rubber insulation and actually require drilling about a 13mm hole. I decided that I would not go this route. The S1000 fairing is very flexible and BMW ties the mirror mounts to the nose fairing. Quite the opposite with the stiffness of the Sports CF nose piece.
Got a call this week letting me know that my mirrors ready for pickup. After the good guy discount, was $160 out the door.
Doing some measurements it appears like the mirrors will be about 5-6 inches wider total then the stockers.
Still having the drill apprehensions I had another idea. See if I could take the brand new mirror apart so I could make a new lower section that has the same bolt pattern as the original mirrors. What was there to lose? Ruin a brand new mirror?
I drilled out the rivet that holds the tension mechanisim together. Was not too tough and pulled out the wave springs leaving the center pivot that needed to be punched out.
This is a totally doable alternative to modfying the faring. I am going to start the CAD modeling essentially copying the original brackets upper section and making a longer lower section. Probably make it out of aluminum or maybe make a mold to cast it. Depends on how many I make. I think that I will offer some new mirrors that are modified and ready to bolt on if anyone is interested.
Not sure exactly what the cost will be yet, but let me know. Might take a month to get the drawings completed in my spare time but I will post updates as they arise.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1329550102.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1329550167.jpg

NEVER trust a mirror. Objects may be closer than they appear or look 10 pounds heavier. What next, a roll bar or maybe engine guards? lmao

nice work szabo, if Oberon doesn't make the extenders I am in.

Szabo;
The HP2 mirror can be unbolted from the base. Would the base just bolt up to the S1000RR mirror?

Do you have a link to the video of the mirrors?

I would be in for a pair of mounts also!

Cheers

I definately would be in, that is a great idea. As long as you get on this soon. Otherwise its drill away!

Anyone know of a proper HP2S mirror delete kit? The plastic bodywork I have on mine is so flimsy the mirrors shake way too much to even be useful. I think I want to junk the stock ones, and just go with a simple bar end mirror like I had on my old 900SL.

Macfly;

Both Peter and I tried bar ends......we decided they did not work.

Why would you need a delete kit as the mirrors just unbolt and leave a small hole.
Fill the holes with some kind of body panel plug.

Cheers

I'm curious as to why you think bar end mirrors don't work. I have a single CRG Lane Splitter on mine and it works just fine. What did you not like about them?

We both bought a pair of CRG Arrow's......while the quality was excellent, we both found they were too far out of your field of vision and that the view was just too small.

I like to know what is going on around me, and after having a few bikes sneak up on me and take me by surprise I decided to find another solution.

Maybe the Lane Splitter gives a better view, but I thought it did not fit the lines of the bike.

Cheers

I got a response from Oberon who makes the sweet Ducati mirror extenders, I also sent a reply:

Hi Jeff,

I beleive the volume will be far too low to make this work commercially, we would need to expect sales of 150 pairs minimum in the first 6 months to be able to make them for approximately £100 per pair. For us this would also need to be yearly sales of 300 pairs to eventually get back the R&D costs, how many 'interested' parties do you have so far?
I should also add we have not yet studied a bike for ourselves to evaluate the design criteria, so these are 'ball park' figures.

Kind regards,
Steve

Oberon Performance Ltd

Steve,

Thanks for your response, as far as interested parties, I probably know about 10, but they are just the owners on the Pelican Parts Technical Forum. The reality is that there were 2500 HP2 Sports made worldwide, but they all suffer from the mirror problem. The mirrors allow almost no visibility of anything other than your elbows. These bikes are also predominately used on the street, even though the mirrors were designed for easy removal for track purposes. The majority of these bikes are in Germany, and if you do a quick Google search you will see that many owners are trying things such as mounting up S1000RR mirrors, even though it requires drilling through the carbon fiber body work. I actually do think you could recover your R&D costs and sell your 150 unit quota, but it will require some targeted marketing activity on your part, there are some BMW only motorcycle publications that might get a lot of interest.

Regards,

Jeff

Photo's of S1000RR mirrors on the HP2 here courtesy of Madmartin.............
HP2S Mirrors - BMW Sport Riders & Racers Forum

Cheers

that looks like it would do the trick!

S1000RR Mirrors rendering for HP2 Sport
 

Ok so last month I posted the photos of the S1000RR mirrors that I purchased and then disassembled to see what it would take to change the mirror base to match the existing hole pattern of the HP2 Sport fairing. It has taken a lot of time between other projects, but I was able to get the design drawn and ready for the 1st test piece hopefully in the next week or so. The bracket will be hidden under the rubber covering and probably can use the stock bolts. I am thinking that it will be better to use nuts on the inside and a small black backing piece due to the increased leverage of the longer mirror. Will post a pic of the test piece after it is grown on the mill.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1332293693.jpg
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thats pretty cool Szazbo and I guess if I already owned a set of S1000RR mirrors then that is the solution I would want, but the mirrors are going to cost me $180 for the pair plus whatever your part is, I would just rather have the right extender and use the stock mirrors. how about a second round on the drawing board and doing something like this?

http://www.bellissimoto.com/images/IMG_extender.jpg

Mirror extensions
 

Hey Shredder, that is actually where I started with extensions for the stockers but really didnt think that the look was worth the effort.
The stockers are unusual where the metal base unit is a tapered unit from the base to where the mirror attaches to the base. From here it continues to taper up the mirror stalk. We need the mirrors to be up about an inch and out at least two inches. I first drew a piece that went between the base and fairing that accomplished that but really looked like aftermarket cheese with 3 distinctive sections. Then I came up with a piece that replaced the metal lower section that had the extension requirements. Looked a little better because there were only two sections, but this proved that the real place that needed the extension was the mirror housing.
The skinny section of the mirror "stalk" is really the correct place to grow the mirror out and have it look properly. So a complete new mirror housing and use the original base was the best looking and functional option.
So I tried to remove the mirror glass from a stocker to see if this was possible and also the pivot mechanisim. If I was able to get it out then possible purchasers could do the same. No Luck, broke the mirror pivot and ruined the mirror. This option was also going to cost a lot more because 2 molds had to be made and this was very expensive especially considering the the quantity that would be made.
I abandoned all of this for my current solution as it is more appropriate for the masses and looks good, reasonable costs and no mods to the bike.
We made the first S1000RR / HP2 pivot out of plastic today before doing one out of aluminum to see how the design worked. A few more slight changes and I should have it sorted out. I also get 20% off on stockers so can pass that on for those interested, and will proably sell some of the brackets alone and modified new mirrors for those less handy with doing the mod themselves.

Put me in for a kit!

Cheers

great explanation Szazbo, i'm in for a set too, let me know if you need payment in advance.

I drilled this past weekend not thinking this would be happening so soon....grrr.

We don't care what you did to your boyfriend!

Cheers

HP2 Sport Mirror update
 

Sorry for the delay in communicating the progress of these mirror mounts. Had to do some jobs that were necessary to pay the rent and buy a bag of groceries. So here is the latest picture after making about 4 prototypes and making slight adjustments to the CAD file each time. It was made using the quick prototype machine. It is machined out of plastic to save time and money, but the final piece will be out of aluminum and might have a slightly different shape to ease the machining process. The point of the quick prototype is to get all the important dimensions in the correct locations and then it can be transferred to aluminum. Still have another change to make with the female slots to maximize engagement but almost ready for the metal version. Next update will not take as long.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1336067404.jpg
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I just picked up a used set of S1000RR mirrors, so I will be waiting for the mounts before the install!
Thanks Szabo, those look great!

Cheers