HP2 Sport Mirrors
 

The only thing that truly bugs me about the HP2 Sport is the fact that 7/8 of each rear view mirror is filled with my arm. I can lift my elbow and look under the arm with effort but the quick glance to see what is aft is not a possibility unless I am in a turn.

There is a product used to extend the mirrors of some sport bikes but I have been unable to find a version for the HP. See http://tiny.cc/p6k7u for an example. These things are made from a plastic or in some cases metal or nylon.

Has anyone had any experience with them or know of anyone who could produce a few in a small run? Others may be interested. I have paper templates of the base of the mirror stalk.

Here is a shot of #46 with a Garmin 376c and an old RKA tank bag that has plenty of room and works like a charm.

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Won't the R1200S mirrors fit?

Interest... I think so! Though someone mentioned that perhaps the reason the stalks are so short is that the rather thin CF mounting point may not be able to support the additional torsion/stress caused by longer stalks. Something to consider.

Can you post pics of the mount for the GPS?

Oh, and welcome!

Some of you guys with the HP2Sports remind me of Ducati sport bike whiners and their mirrors. I've had a 916 and a 996 and they gave you the same wonderful view of your arms, but it was understood when you got them that they were race bikes with lights and mirrors, so you should expect some amount of street inconvenience in order to enjoy the rest of the package. If you want a fast touring bike with great mirrors and lots of luggage, this ain't it. If you can afford the HP2Sport, then you can afford something to tour with too. Please don't mess them up with aftermarket parts that try to make them what they aren't.

+1 with Bob...

...although I ended up with bar-end mirrors on the duc and that worked VERY well!

Bob, you forgot heated grips. Oh, and a centerstand, of course.

welcome and enjoy your new ducati...opps I mean hp2 S,(sorry bob i had to :)),
Have a thick skin and enjoy the personalities on this board.
Their is lots of info for you.
sending you a pm
jeff

Hey, what about a Kisan headlight modulator to rankle the unwashed masses. C'mon folks, sure its a race [type] bike but do you really expect we OF's to crank our heads around?

Truth be told, other than perhaps N8, very few of us are worthy of this bike's capabilities, but that didn't stop a ds like me.SmileWavy

Hey Alex,

Come on over. I have some extra R11S mirror stalks with some sort of oval base like the HP2 mirrors seem to have. Maybe they'll work. Really I just want to see your bike.

Actually, John, very few of us are worthy of what we have these days. I know I'm not. I just think the HP2Sport is cool enough to be kept in character. It's your money of course, so it's all good.

Nonsense... I can crack that throttle open with as much talent as N8... in a straight line that is. It's always those turns that are the tricky part. ;)

Hey Anton,

Thanks for the offer. It'll be great to see what the fit is like. A simple swap of mirrors would be better than the extender. Maybe this weekend...and I'd love for you to see the new scoot. I'll give you a call or drop by.

As to the GPS mount, I'll take some pictures, perhaps this evening. As it happens it was very simple. I'm not a big fan of clamps and had a RAM mount with a ball on the base for the Garmin 376c.

The top triple clamp has a hole already drilled and tapped that I used to attach a RAM ball to. As I recall the hole is on the underside of the top triple clamp on the left (seated on the bike) side. It is not obvious and is a bit out of sight. I stumbled on it when I was trying to figure a way to do a clean installation. No idea what it was intended for.

I have included the best picture I have on the laptop but will try to get a better one. The RAM mount was the RAM-11M available many places or try Cylegadgets.com. I had an appropriately sized bolt in my tool box.

Also included is a picture of the left handle bar that I bent last June when I hit the deer. I shot it (the bar not the deer, which hopefully died a slow death of starvation from a broken jaw) alongside the replacement which just arrived last week...($200). That and the left front turn signal lens were the only damaged parts...other than my fingers. I was damn lucky.



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Wow, didn't know you had it a deer with the HP2S. Glad you are okay for the most part. Hmm... so it seems that replacement parts are avaialble, after only a 6 month wait. Good thing it is 'winter'.

FYI, I used the same tapped hole for my radar detector's mount.

Sergio,

Yeah, I was coming off of the Blue Ridge Parkway one Saturday in June and had begun to head down the mountain on a two lane blacktop road at about 40-45 mph when she burst from cover on the left side of the road...all I saw was hooves and head. I nailed her in the right jaw with the left handlebar having covered the clutch lever with my gloved hand. Scared the #%&@ out of me. The bike took the whole thing in stride, wobbled a bit but I was able to stop it in the road and never went down. I credit the steering dampener to some degree with keeping me from losing it.

I never saw the deer again and after picking up the turn signal lens pieces, headed on down the mountain, stopping at the bottom to check out my hand which had begun to line the inside of my glove with blood. After determining the extent of the damage I headed home, dropped the bike off and drove the pickup to the ER for a clean-up, a few stitches and a splint for my finger.

All in all I was very fortunate. The bike barely had 400 miles on it at the time.

Here's a picture of the left grip after I got home...yep, deer hair! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1226432878.jpg

One Angel favor used up............its hard to know how many one actually has left. Glad you held on.

Me too...I've used up a few of those Angle favor things.

GPS Mount Using RAM Ball On Triple Clamp

Here are a couple more pictures of the mount. The GPS is a Garmin 376c.


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[QUOTE=lxddle;4297328]Me too...I've used up a few of those Angel favor things.

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I have the 478 with GXM30 and that specific mount. Did you hard wire direct to battery or just run off charged battery (in Garmin). I've been thinking of putting a Powerlet outlet somewhere but don't have the heart to drill a hole anywhere in the bike as I have done on my other BMW's e.g. GT, Adv, RT, etc. Don't have the HP2 yet, so will see what other options.

Those that want to take a cheap shot, go ahead, I asked for it! :D:D:D

[QUOTE=jpalamaro;4298007] I did, in fact, have the dealer install a block (Powerlet?) to which the GPS is wired. It seemed to make sense to isolate things and with the hard wire setup it is nice not to have to worry about battery charge when I am out and about. I transfer the 376c back and forth between the GT (also hard wired) and the HP and use the battery when it's on the KTM EXC.

I know how you feel about "scarring" the new bike. I have a frame mounted helmet lock on the work bench in the garage and am just screwing up enough courage to bolt the thing to the frame knowing it will damage the paint. I guess I could wrap a piece of protective tape or fairing protector around the frame.

I'm so damn anal about bikes I sometimes think I should just buy OLD bikes. I did that with an 1150 Adventure and spent a bunch of time and money restoring it to as-new status. Talk about idiocy.

I be careful with the 376 (I still have 376, 378, 478, and a 640 on order when it comes out...I know, I'm nuts), but leaving the 376 under power WITH UNIT OFF and even with the GXM30 shut off the unit sucks some serious amerage; I haven't put the ammeter on the circuit to check the parasitic draw but twice I came out to a dead battery in the morning (dead enough that Uncle Canbus wouldn't allow starting)

When I find out where the battery is (that is, when I get the damn HP2S) I will likely install a Powerlet outlet as I've done on all other bikes.

If you are afraid of scarring the bike, don't ride on roads with other vehicles...behind them obviously. ;)

I'm building a humidity-temperature controlled Lucite enclosure to cover my HP2S that's going to be mounted on a solid granite pedestal. In fact, removing the air and piping in pure Helium (perhaps Argon or Krypton) in an effort to thwart decomposition/corrosion. :p

When I ride, there will be a vacuum cleaner truck riding ahead of me to ensure no rocks/pebbles/gravel hit anything. Damn Florida Love Bugs gonna be a problem tho'.;)

That was my plan B.

John,

If it makes you feel any better I get a ton of bugs in the face and on my helmet and not as many on the front of the bike. I guess it's pretty aero.

LX

I'm back from JAX with one of anal John Palamaro's bikes. 9 months in service and showroom condition. Wife loves it John.:)

I ran into the Wooldridges', owners of BMW Motorcycles o Atlanta and Bob told me that he has two HP2S on the floor ready for immediate delivery ABS and non-ABS. On the subject of mirrors, No time to look back when I'm going faster than anyone out there. If it's a cop just listen for the siren. :D The mirrors are just a convenient place to hang my helmet.:D

Besides, when I do the Ducati lookback people think I'm friendlier.

HP2 Sport Mirrors
 

Here are some S1000 mirrors on a HP2 Sport. Look pretty good. Rear-view-mirror from BMW S 1000 RR on BMW HP2 Sport - YouTube

Woulda been more helpful if they showed the stock mirrors and then the S1000RR mirrors to show style differences. The question is still begged though....why?

Looks like they had to drill another hole in the fairing :(

Shreddr, I've seen this mod at Touring Sport BMW Ducati. The bolts are larger and require increasing the diameter of the existing holes in the cf.

The bolt holes need to be larger and the centres are 30mm instead of 45mm. So one more hole needs to be drilled.

I looked at all the bikes I could find at the Seattle MC show and I still think the S1000RR mirrors fit the bike the best.

To answer Bob's question as to why???.............to see behind......the stock mirrors are horrible!
All you can see is your elbows.

Cheers

That's what I was hoping you'd say. :)

Of course, a good view of elbow is a Ducati Tradition so I was comfortable with that in the past. Anymore, however, I'm not comfortable with much that doesn't recline. :D

I wish I had the expertise to finish this concept mod for moving the mirror down and out a bit. It solved the problem and was totally reversible using the OEM mirror. I envisioned it in a aerodynamic cf form.

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Just a shame y'all feel the need, practical or otherwise, to mess with such a beautiful design. I'd have one of these bad boys if I had the juice and I'd keep it looking stock.

Bob, the HP2S is getting harder to find, just like the Ducati 900SS/FE. Two scooters I have great memories to relive in my mind.:)

Bubba, this is the best solution I have seen so far. If I can't come up with something else, I am going to do the same thing, only I will make it out of CF plate. Ideally somebody will make an angled riser that uses all the stock parts. Hornig make a riser, but all it does is prop the mirrors up an inch, they need to be angled out about 30 degrees as well. I asked Nigel at Sandbar if he could make something, but he was busy with some other projects.

Shreddr, the riser has been done and failed. I'll tell you, I think you and Ken probably have the contact to take my concept all the way. I think it would sell. The attach point would be a teardrop hump to encapsulate the studs for attaching to the fairing, It would be contoured to blend with the curve of the fairing over the edge and then be drilled and recessed on the bottom for the mirror attachment. The cf would match the bike. Well, that's the vision I have for it. Like Hancock states, it would not be a rad mod and completely reversible. Rapid Dog or Motoyoyo might know someone on the left coast that could come up with a cf prototype for you to test out.

+1

I'm with Bob on this one. I've added/changed nothing on my HP2 Sport except for a power plug for my V1. Oh I'm sure there's a bug splat and rock chip here or there, but those are beauty marks.

As for the mirrors, I'm often too busy looking forward to worry about looking backwards. I have also discovered you can still see the red light from a LEO's lightbar using the fully 100% stock mirrors. :D

One version of the riser has been done by Hornig and is not a complete improvement, but I am sure it is better than stock. A properly done riser/angle mount would solve the problem completely, a new longer stalk with a bend in it would also solve the problem and would look OEM.

As far as the contact to take your concept all the way, if you are talking about the half assed TekCarbon PoS, I would rethink that based on the experience of many of the board members. Nigel over at Sandbar has an idea, but it is low on his list of projects.

I am going to get ahold of a salvage mirror and take it apart and see how hard it would be to do new stalks, maybe something in a nice black ano billet!

I tried something like Nail made.........but it just seemed too flimsy.
It might have been the plastic material I used, but I did not like it.

I made my own extenders out of some 2" teflon that was carved to fit.
I'm still not happy with how it looks.......and have not tried it on the road, but it looks like I can see behind better now.
I am still on the search for something nicer looking.

While checking all the mirrors on the bikes at the Seattle MC show............I noticed that the Davidson's had something interesting written on the mirrors;

"Objects in this Mirror are Behind You"

Cheers

I think the reason that you can see the drilled hole in the video is that the mirror needed to be moved forward so you could see out of them due to the extra width and being to close. Otherwise due to the different bolt pattern he could have covered up the hole. Does any one have a drawing of their idea. I have someone that could do this for us as he builds carbon bicycle and aerospace stuff and has his own shop.

Cool, I will work on it over the break! There is a riser out there made by Hornig, but it just jacks it up an inch. They probably need to go up and out an inch, a placement similar to the R12S which was fine. I am sure BMW acheived the styling function they were after, and perhaps they figured the mirrors wouldn't spend much time on the bike. I did notice they seem to be in the right place if you are in full tuck and your elbows are against the tank, unfortunately I only spend about 30% of my riding in full aero tuck! :D