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Old 07-06-2018, 08:40 AM
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Although no one was shot, here's another SHOCKING example of how TERRIBLE it is that a citizen used a GUN to ensure the safety of themselves and their co-workers.

What kind of world do we live in where violent criminals can't go around committing crimes without worrying about their safety. Think of these poor criminals! Stressed out like this. They need to be able to commit their criminal activities in a safe environment.

Watch: Pistol-packing waitress defends George Webb co-worker during attack | Fox News
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Although no one was shot, here's another SHOCKING example of how TERRIBLE it is that a citizen used a GUN to ensure the safety of themselves and their co-workers.

What kind of world do we live in where violent criminals can't go around committing crimes without worrying about their safety. Think of these poor criminals! Stressed out like this. They need to be able to commit their criminal activities in a safe environment.

Watch: Pistol-packing waitress defends George Webb co-worker during attack | Fox News
It would have been a better story if he'd been shot, but it's not bad as it is.
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It would have been a better story if he'd been shot, but it's not bad as it is.
Definitely. She should have shot him in the forehead. Twice.

Which brings up an important aspect to using a gun for self-defense. You need to have the stones to calmly smoke someone. If that guy had kept advancing, would she have squeezed the trigger quickly enough? With good aim, before he could overpower her?

Anyone who has watched real videos of encounters w guns knows that these things can go sideways for the good guys, (or women), very quickly. I'm all for people being able to defend themselves w a gun from criminals who would assault/murder/rape them but it's all about getting the drop and firing quickly and accurately. That is why the glove compartment loaded piece is so problematic; if you are surprised at a gas station by some bad guy in your face, will you be able to retrieve it and shoot fast enough? And what are the risks of an accidental shooting by a child or other innocent, not to mention it being stolen in a car burglary by a really bad scumbag?

These are real concerns and issues. I love a good story of a violent criminal getting smoked as much as the next guy but the idea that everyone carrying will always work out right is BS as well.
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If the gun is a semi-automatic, the easiest way to prevent a small child from accidentally firing the weapon is to have a loaded magazine but an empty chamber. Generally speaking, most children under the age of about 10 or 12 don't have the hand strength to work the slide. Or, one step further, put the magazine in your pocket. Best yet, teach the child to keep his/her hands off the weapon! My father tought me to shoot a rifle when I was about 5-6 years old. Before I was allowed to shoot, I had to recite all the firearm safety rules. Since then, I have managed to go over 60 years without shooting anyone!
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...but the idea that everyone carrying will always work out right is BS as well
I'd rather take my chances with having the power to defend myself than without. If someone prefers to not have that power that's fine but I object when someone wants to take away my Constitutional right to defend myself.
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If the gun is a semi-automatic, the easiest way to prevent a small child from accidentally firing the weapon is to have a loaded magazine but an empty chamber. Generally speaking, most children under the age of about 10 or 12 don't have the hand strength to work the slide. Or, one step further, put the magazine in your pocket. Best yet, teach the child to keep his/her hands off the weapon! My father tought me to shoot a rifle when I was about 5-6 years old. Before I was allowed to shoot, I had to recite all the firearm safety rules. Since then, I have managed to go over 60 years without shooting anyone!
My kids all shoot. They understand guns, understand the rules, and understand the damage they can do. There's not any novelty because they aren't hidden from view and discussed in hushed voices.
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Do you read and understand English Katch? Is this a second language issue, or are you seriously as obtuse as you appear to be?

Most guns are not used on family members, most are not used at on people, that is just a straight up idiotic statement.
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I'm sure that most guns in a glove box just sit there unused.


You would lose such a bet, most firearms are used on family members on purpose or by accident, with suicide being the most frequent application. This includes firearms stored in glove boxes as the more than two examples I posted illustrate.

I did not post this incident for one. I did not ever proclaim it to be a generated from a selfish desire to protect our family. Now you are straight up inventing things.
People like you that make those stupid statements of "most" or "all" or "
typically" without any information to back it up just muddy the waters of those who are not too lazy to do a little research and make an informed opinion.
You're posts are thoughtless and misleading, some by intent, many by laziness or stupidity I think.

You sure do seem to be promoting that idea by posting this incident and proclaiming it as a "selfish desire to protect our family".

I own guns, I am not anti-gun, I am anti-stupid.

If someone actually has a "selfish desire to protect their family" then they will keep their firearm on their person or restrict access to children, and possibly lock them up unloaded when not in use.
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Then you have this, this, whatever you would call it from someone who reads too many Janet Evanovitch novels.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/A-gun-in-the-editor-s-top-drawer-13045074.php
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