Shortage of workers .

[Don Ro]

^^^
When I retired ('08) I thought, "Where in hell did I find time to even do my laundry."

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Don Ro

Never in my life have I read/heard that word. Had to look it up.

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

I thought it was a typo

I read a lot as a youth, what can I say.

[Por_sha911]

This may be worthy of a thread of its own but, for all you folks that bristle at the bad rep Millennials are getting, I will pose this old adage: where there's smoke there's fire:

Jul. 19, 2018 - 1:49 - The Montgomery Biscuits are hosting 'Millennial Night' this weekend, but their advertising on social media set off an eruption of mixed feedback from the very group they're trying to attract.

'Millennial Night' baseball game triggers Twitter debate| Latest News Videos | Fox News

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

Lots of snowflakes out there living in thier parents basements who would rather make viral YouTube videos/Facebook Memes, or be a professional gamer. Actually getting up/dressed, and out the door in the morning doesn't align with thier beliefs, and desires. If these kids never get kicked in the azz, and have to take responsabilty for a mortgage/family/automobiles like adults tend top do, they will never "launch".

Way too many addictions drive these people to desparation, and taking a resposible job, and being sober doesn't agree with them.

Look at the lengths that some corporations have had to resort to to attract/keep millenials.

Some of those people make fuchtons of money doing so. Million views can net around $1000. Do that a few times a week, or several times, and you're golden.


This youtuber? $10.5 million for 2017. https://www.youtube.com/user/IISuperwomanII/featured

Ryan ToysReview — $11 million https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liEVwm9TPZI

Smosh — $11 million https://www.youtube.com/user/smosh

Daniel Middleton (DanTDM) — $16.5 million https://www.youtube.com/user/TheDiamondMinecart
One of those "parent's basement-living-gamers" you despise so much.

26-year-old Daniel Middleton, otherwise known as TheDiamondMinecart, is a popular YouTuber focused on the game Minecraft. Middleton posts daily reviews and gameplay videos. He is married to another popular Minecraft YouTuber, JemPlaysMC. This year, he had a world tour that included four sold-out nights at the Sydney Opera House.


What exactly would the motivation be for them, again, to go out and get a miserable $20/hr job making someone else rich?

Maybe you're just jealous...?

[fintstone]

No different than playing the lottery. Millions play...And there is always someone out there that gets rich...

Probably would not live in Mom's basement waiting for that to happen. Not much of a strategy for most folks.

[Sooner or later]

Million views is a thousand bucks

Hundred milliion views for a decent living.

A thousand you tubers would require a hundred billion views.

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Million views is a thousand bucks

Hundred milliion views for a decent living.

A thousand you tubers would require a hundred billion views.

Rather like being a F1 driver, or Major league sports star, just not that many, and lots of people trying.

[cabmandone]

I could be wrong but I think parents have made it too easy for kids. I know I'm guilty of it at times. Funny thing happened the other day though. My son came home from work all pissed off. He said "I run a trimmer all day while the other two sit on their asses on the mowers". I said "welcome to the bottom of the ladder. You're the new guy so you're going to get the s..t jobs. You're making $10/hr running a frickin trimmer... get over it" Naturally he didn't like hearing that.

[Superman]

Perhaps employers are accustomed to wages staying 'flat' for decades. In fact, they are. Insanity has been defined as doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome.

"Sheesh. 25 years ago I was flooded with applications for my $11 per hour jobs. Why are they not beating my door down today?"

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by Superman

Perhaps employers are accustomed to wages staying 'flat' for decades. In fact, they are. Insanity has been defined as doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome.

"Sheesh. 25 years ago I was flooded with applications for my $11 per hour jobs. Why are they not beating my door down today?"

And their customers will scream bloody murder if the price of the product or service goes up 75 cents. Pay $20 to flip burgers = $15 for a burger and small fries.

[jcommin]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

We dropped our drug testing. Show up clean and sober or get fired.

Why should the company care if you smoke weed on weekends?

Europe does this - Most don't drug test. My company - an accident or damage in excess of $250 is a drug/alcohol test. you test positive, you are gong. I work in manufacturing: I would never want to put anyone in harms way - and I don't want to work next to someone who can put me in harms way.

[jcommin]

Originally Posted by legion

In the Midwest we have lots of farmer's kids in the trades. They've been putting in 12-hour days since their teens and aren't afraid to work hard. That's not to say none are lazy, but they are less common.

If you at the history of manufacturing, many companies started in rural areas or recruited farmers. There is a reason for that. Farmers were self sufficient: they were mechanics, repair persons, inventors, fabricators, machinists. I could make a argument that farmers were the first engineers.

[asphaltgambler]

Companies here with 50 or more employees need to have a drug / testing policy in place as it's a huge financial risk when an accident occurs and they are under the influence.

[asphaltgambler]

Growing up as a farm kid - most of my contemporaries were cut from the same cloth. Money was the biggest obstacle, our determination and perseverance was our biggest gift.

[Don Ro]

Originally Posted by asphaltgambler

Growing up as a farm kid - most of my contemporaries were cut from the same cloth. Money was the biggest obstacle, our determination and perseverance was our biggest gift.

And, being a farm kid, most likely your work ethic.

[T77911S]

I have really started noticing more companies advertising for employees on the radio and offering a signing BONUS!! even 2 men and a truck offer a bonus.

one was an HVAC company offering full time work, full benefits, 401k, truck to drive home. cell phone, ipad, training.

had my truck at meineke, the guy said there is a shortage of mechanics and that he cant find any employees.

don't want to turn this political but I think it is results of trump.

[Crowbob]

'Don't want to turn this political but I think it is results of trump'.

Ha!

Similar to, I don't want this to turn religious but Allahu Akbar!

[GH85Carrera]

Back in the early 1980s Oklahoma was having a major oil boom. The company I worked at was a professional photo-lab. We need more employees to work in the darkroom. Some knowledge of basic photography was a requirement. This was long before the internet.

We put an ad in the newspaper, and the only replies we received were phone calls. They all started the same, "I presently be incarcerated, but I be getting out in a few days...." The jobs went unfilled until the oil boom went bust. Then we had all sorts of people wanting to work there. Men that had been getting 200K per year were looking for minimum wage jobs. It was astonishing to see people that made major bucks had spend it all on toys and big houses. Jet skis, high end pickups, and lake houses. They were broke, unemployed and selling everything because they spent it all.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by asphaltgambler

Growing up as a farm kid - most of my contemporaries were cut from the same cloth. Money was the biggest obstacle, our determination and perseverance was our biggest gift.

Farm kids - a national treasure that is going the way of the 250 acre family farm. There aren't many farm kids on today's 2000 acre corporate farms.
One of the greatest strokes of luck in my life was to be born a farm kid - right up there with being white, male, and born in the USA. I learned to drive our Ford 2N tractor at about age 7 and was raking hay with it when I was 8. By age 10 I was running the baler with our big tractor (with power steering!) while the town kids dad hired were sweating their butts off pitching bales. The best part was that I was part of the team - helping mom and dad support the family. It gave me a sense of importance and a belief that I could do anything I set my mind to. My folks were determined that I would go to college and be the first college educated kid in my family. They told me, "You are going to college, you just have to figure out how you are going to pay for it." (I was the first to enter college, but my sister beat me to graduation.)
I don't know how we could replace the character-building experience of growing up working on the family farm, but we need more "farm kids".

[legion]

I've been having this conversation with a lot of people lately...

We need a "middle path" in this country.

Right now, there are two paths. If you are an A, B, or C student (and even some D students), you go to college, accumulate a huge amount of debt, and hopefully go on to an office job that allows you to pay back that debt. But the sad truth is that college is very expensive and not all office jobs pay well enough to realistically pay back even what is today a modest education. If you are a D or F student, you are funneled into the trades assuming you manage to stay out of prison. (D student with strong athletic skills? You will be made into a C student.)

Before WWII, only the A students and the very wealthy went to college. The B and C students went into the trades, and the rest struggled to get by.

I think we need to get away from "everyone goes to college". It is far to expensive to be used as a litmus test for intelligence and work ethic, as it was in the past. Instead, we need to get some of the B and C students back into the trades. I'm not sure how to make this happen.