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GH85Carrera 09-07-2018 09:36 AM

My nephew was trained by my brothers and learned a lot. He moved to Golden, Co. for a job, as a framing and finish carpenter. He has had to really learn a lot of Spanish to work with the rest of the crew. The owner of the company made him a manager and in charge of getting houses finished. He has a crew that goes to each house and does what is needed to finish it. So far he loves the job. So there are a few millennials doing it.

Tim Hancock 09-07-2018 09:59 AM

I did a couple summers of framing in my late teens..... Now at 52, I decided to "throw up" a simple lean-to addition to my shop.... How hard could it be? Well with the temps in the 90's for the last week or so here in NW Ohio, lets just say I am happy I ended up with a desk job in the AC for most of my adult life. 4" Ring shank 20D nails are a beotch ;)


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gatotom 09-07-2018 10:05 AM

personally, I have always looked at my carpenter skills as a curse and not a blessing. I never get slack time and as I get older (70) there is more to do. I am finally going to retire from Chiropractic at the end of this yr. I built my house 34 yrs ago and have a stack of soapstone tile and a shower pan waiting to be installed plus a new cedar deck and a new roof.

So, I need to retire so I can finish this work, yes, I am a lot slower now but since I slowed down, I don't make as many mistakes.

ckelly78z 09-07-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 10171870)
I did a couple summers of framing in my late teens..... Now at 52, I decided to "throw up" a simple lean-to addition to my shop.... How hard could it be? Well with the temps in the 90's for the last week or so here in NW Ohio, lets just say I am happy I ended up with a desk job in the AC for most of my adult life. 4" Ring shank 20D nails are a beotch ;)


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Yesterday was the first somewhat cool day in a week or two in Ohio, (Sep 6, the pool was still 87 degrees with no heater), so I started mounting nailers to build walls for my hay storage shed on the back of my small (40x60) pole barn. I will be picking up metal barn siding tommorrow morning, and hope to get the majority of it done before 2-4" of rain hit Sat evening from hurricane Gordon remnants.

Tim Hancock 09-07-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 10171889)
Yesterday was the first somewhat cool day in a week or two in Ohio, (Sep 6, the pool was still 87 degrees with no heater), so I started mounting nailers to build walls for my hay storage shed on the back of my small (40x60) pole barn. I will be picking up metal barn siding tommorrow morning, and hope to get the majority of it done before 2-4" of rain hit Sat evening from hurricane Gordon remnants.

Yep we are doing similar tasks in the same weather... I am in no rush, so I have avoided working most of the hot days. Other than having a friend dig my holes with an auger on his skidsteer, I am doing it myself which means getting creative with my little John Deere for lifting and for working off of. I bought a 31' camper to hopefully put on the river next summer, but it eats up too much real estate in the shop, so I am building the 56' x 12' lean-to to park it under for the winter. My nerves are not what they once were (when I was 16-18 yo) when walking on top of the rafters and purlins. lol :D

look 171 09-07-2018 11:02 AM

Man, you guys are real troopers doing heavy stuff like that at 70. I am a little beat up at 50 now and knee and ankle started to hurt a bit and that's due to crashes during bike racing over the years. I did lots of finish carpentry and wood working. Very light duty stuff compared to framing and concrete work. I learned long ago, in my early 20s, that its so much cheaper to hire out the heavy lifting instead of screwing up my body. I hope to still walk on rafters at 70 (for fun and not work). My roofer's father is 82 and still goes out to the job sites hanging around up on the roof. Oh yeah, he retired long ago.

wdfifteen 09-07-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 10171481)
I'm not the best guy for trim- I do it the same way I frame:
Cut it with a skilsaw, bang it into place with a sledge.

When the guys were framing my room addition a few years ago there was a guy on the roof taking measurements and nailing the pieces in, while a guy on the ground did the cutting. The roof guy called out, “I need one 28 and an eighth.” The guy on the ground said, “This is framing. I don’t do eighths.”

speeder 09-07-2018 12:01 PM

The problem is that there is effectively zero percent unemployment in the construction industry in Southern California, (and a few other places). The construction boom in DTLA is the biggest since the 1920s.

Let that sink in a bit. Los Angeles was mostly built in the 1920s. Most of the buildings that are not modern in DTLA were built in the 1920s. And that is just downtown. Add in the boom in Hollywood and everywhere else. There are massive apartment buildings being built on every block in the city, practically.

Anyone w a pulse can get a job in construction right now and at a decent wage. You were lucky to find an old guy who wanted to work a few days.

Zeke 09-07-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10171958)
When the guys were framing my room addition a few years ago there was a guy on the roof taking measurements and nailing the pieces in, while a guy on the ground did the cutting. The roof guy called out, “I need one 28 and an eighth.” The guy on the ground said, “This is framing. I don’t do eighths.”

Lot's of expressions in framing like that:

"We're not building a clock."

"There are no 1/16ths in a house."

"28 and a quarter, cut the line" (what line? :D)(Measure the length, make a mark and lay the saw on the corner of the wood to square it up and cut. Headers and beams get a line.)

"Take a saw blade off."

And, "Just a RCH." ;)

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10172025)

Anyone w a pulse can get a job in construction right now and at a decent wage. You were lucky to find an old guy who wanted to work a few days.

Never said otherwise.

scottmandue 09-07-2018 12:49 PM

I have a neighbor that I tap for most of my framing/plumbing/flooring... he does good work but I don't think you would like him (pot head)

wdfifteen 09-07-2018 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10172070)

And, "Just a RCH." ;)

LOL! Yep, BCH and RCH.

Zeke 09-07-2018 01:04 PM

RCH being the smaller. ;)

Salty Springs 09-07-2018 02:11 PM

Our favorite was "it's a pussy hair to long" or short.
Many years a carpenter and still have all my fingers!
Dave

speeder 09-07-2018 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty Springs (Post 10172216)
Our favorite was "it's a pussy hair to long" or short.
Many years a carpenter and still have all my fingers!
Dave

Ahhh..., that’s what they already said.

look 171 09-07-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10172070)
Lot's of expressions in framing like that:

"We're not building a clock."

"There are no 1/16ths in a house."

"28 and a quarter, cut the line" (what line? :D)(Measure the length, make a mark and lay the saw on the corner of the wood to square it up and cut. Headers and beams get a line.)

"Take a saw blade off."

And, "Just a RCH." ;)

Never said otherwise.

Ok, now I know you are an old fart. The guy i used to work for during college used to say RCH. I scratched my bone head all day trying to find out that the hell is RCH. Hey, I was a dumb ass 19 year old greenhorn. The guys laughed, of course. I did know that it was very little

look 171 09-07-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10172112)
RCH being the smaller. ;)

I'm told, not smaller, but finerSmileWavy

scottmandue 09-07-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10172374)
Ok, now I know you are an old fart. The guy i used to work for during college used to say RCH. I scratched my bone head all day trying to find out that the hell is RCH. Hey, I was a dumb ass 19 year old greenhorn. The guys laughed, of course. I did know that it was very little

I guess we were not that precise... nor did we use the initials... my brother would say move it a c**t hair closer... maybe it was a HVAC thing?
Now, what was it we called copper pipe insulation? :p

look 171 09-07-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 10172383)
I guess we were not that precise... nor did we use the initials... my brother would say move it a c**t hair closer... maybe it was a HVAC thing?
Now, what was it we called copper pipe insulation? :p

You rough neck, peasants

KFC911 09-07-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 10172383)
I guess we were not that precise... nor did we use the initials... my brother would say move it a c**t hair closer... maybe it was a HVAC thing?
....

Naw...not a HVAC thing. I'm reading this thread....not having a clue what it was all about....until now :)

Soooo....I assume the B is for blonde?

1990C4S 09-08-2018 07:01 AM

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