New 992
 

Anyone else think the front end fenders look like a 959? The line created by the fender and frunk?

Thoughts on the car?

Also don't like the rear badge, both 911 and Carrera? Redundant?

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I like it...

If I could afford to, I'd use it as a daily driver.

As far as "sports cars" go, I'd pick me something else.

Looks attractive in bright colors such as red or yellow.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/08/2019-porsche-911-992-no-guessing-finished-item/

Not a fan.

The Carrera is getting further away from it's unique styling with every generation and looking more and more like every other luxury touring coupe. Jaguar F, GrandTurismo, etc.

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Craig, you'll notice the distance from the front wheel to the front A-pillar is about the same on all of those.

As is the angle of the B Pillar just behind the rear window.

It has to do with crash structure, when the front left or right take a partial block hit there needs to be a certain path/give to get a high rating.

There are many constraints that are tying the cars together in their dimensions and angles.

I like that Corvette met the new rules when they made the C7 by making something new instead of trying to stretch something old. The C7 is a better looking car than any of the three you linked.

Personally I'm just glad I am not responsible for trying to style the 911 in a modern environment.

Agree. And I've come to appreciate those too (well the Jag anyway), but would pick the 992 if I could afford one.

My only complaint is not I cannot afford one.:D

I've always favored the smaller front chin spoiler openings of let's say the first gen Boxster over the gaping big mouth high HP 911 models.

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However, the twin side radiator look is one of the 911's most copied features. Other manufactures use black plastic block-off plates, but they copy this look.

The lower chin spoiler valance is one area they change year to year, so I'm not upset at all with what I see as I know this too shall change.

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I took a second look at the link provided:
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Those for sure look like operable shutter vanes up front.

I wonder what the center opening is used to cool.

The more I look at it, the more it seems there is a center cover plate or trim piece missing.

What in the heck is a frunk?

Do you call a trunk in the back of a car a runk? It is just a trunk. Front or back, it is a trunk.

The butt looks higher every year. Not a fan of how they did not fully resolve that third brake light in the BBQ grill. But it is wide, the front hood is reminiscent of aircooled cars, I'll get used to it...

I don't get the new trend of "all digital dashes"... My friend has one on his Audi, already cost abot $4000 in warranty money to fix it 3 times. Long term that's no bueno...

Irritating, isn't it? These new guys...

I think my interest in the 911 ended with a 991...

I don't like the overall shape of this one, I can't stand the huge size, don't like the big wheels, don't like the front grill, absolutely hate the rear end and especially the rear engine grill. Other than that....

^^No doubt it's huge.

The Porsche of today is not the company or cars that I fell in love with back in the 1980's. Faster? yes. More comfort? yes. More modern and high tech? yes. Stir passion for the car and loyalty to the brand? I wish I could say otherwise but, no. They lost me. I don't go look at the new cars at intro, don't go to gatherings, don't read about the specs... There is no connection for me. No soul. I'm definitely not going to bond with a new car by working on it (unless you call a wash and a wax "working") like I can and do with my `87.

Maybe it is just me but I feel that the modern Porsche's are wonderful, high priced appliances just like many other brands. Maybe a little better than some but no distinction, no soul. The Porsche of today has become SUV's, 4 door luxo sedans, and oh, by the way, I think we also have a sports car around here somewhere. Next will be pickup trucks. I know "its nothing personal, just business" but I don't feel a connection to a business.

Oh and to answer your question: the 992 looks bland and boring.

^^^ Very true, but I still wouldn't kick it out of bed for eating crackers.

Front Trunk

F-trunk

Funk...........I think.

The front and rear look aweful, sides are nice.

I have a 991.2, so I am therefore obligated to hate it haha!
EDIT: After seeing more pics of the 992, I hate it regardless of my "obligations"

offered for comparison purposes...

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Waiting for someone to snap a photo of burgers and hot dogs on that hideous rear grill.

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So with that logic a rear trunk is a R-Trunk or runk?

Well played!

I don't hate the new, but ... meh, on styling.

I like the light bar across the back - very 993 / impact bumper. Overall, I think this design is the best waterpumper to date.

I agree with Craig, I find the design rather generic. Not ugly, and not that far away from the 991, but generic. Tell a kid to sketch a new sports car and it will look something like that.

I get the message, but it hasn't even been a fruit to fruit (apples to oranges) unfair comparison in so many years, that it isn't even worth mentioning; hell we're not even in the same genus/species! I'm a purist, but my hard lines have softened over the years and I've finally come to accept the "new" cars for what they are.

Not going to rush out to replace the 991 anytime soon that's for sure.

I'll be curious to see what 991.2 prices start to do in the next few years.

Those of us not stuck in the air-cooled era will probably get used to it - one thing that they made even worse IMO is the rear spoiler. When up, the car has looked unfinished and ugly for a while now, but the 992 extends the moveable spoiler all the way to the rear fenders now and seriously destroys the rear look of the car when it's up... Looks like a moulin rouge dancer lifting her skirt - minus the good legs...

I wonder if they will manage a ducktail on this model given the width of the thing...

Seems like Porsche is prying open a slot for the Cayman to be the 'sports car'. That's likely where I'd be headed if I was buying new. That or a Boxster. MG are they handsome anymore.

Agree.

Phrunk in SE PA today :D

Reisentoters annual Phil-a-Phrunk tonight. SmileWavy

That's really been the case for several generations now. The 911 has continued to edge towards GT with each new generation, while the Cayman/Boxster has kept the sport car focus. I agree with you on the looks too, both are stunning cars. Though I'm really not a huge fan of the turbo 4-cylinder.

If nothing else, maybe it's my love of pro sports car racing that has softened my hard lines with regards to Porsche 911 evolution. The factory can't bring a knife to a gun fight! Everything has progressed with the competition!!!! No doubt this is a dedicated, factory race car, but it can't possibly make sense for Porsche to build the mid-engine RSR on a "longhood" platform for the current GTLM series!!!!! So the whole cycle continues lockstep: what they learn from racing, makes its way to the street, the street cars evolve, which ultimately yields better tubs for "production based" racing. I'm not explaining it correctly, but if it means that I get to see this at the races, then I try to accept what's on the dealer lot...

https://www.porsche.com/usa/motorsportandevents/motorsport/racingcars/991-911-rsr/featuresandspecs/


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Keep in mind, that on American roads little cars get no respect and even less so with more people driving some kind of truck now.

I'm not advocating larger sports cars, just saying the way things are.

Americans in general value size over other factors, yes there are many exceptions but it is a tide we swim against and not with.

Looking down the road at the 992 line, I think I've reached Peak 911 and will probably never be able to justify buying another.... used to be unless you were on minimum wage, you could afford a used porsche for not much more than a new camry. That's no longer the case since oldies have gone stratospheric and in my experience modern ones are introducing too much dealer centric tech...

Nowadays, most 991-992 will be PDK. PDK is $15K to replace and you can only do it at a dealer. An engine is $20K now... And the 992 will shortly introduce hybridization, and I fear no independent will be able to deal with this... Imagine buying one of those puppies new for >>$100K and looking down the road at forking out replacement costs on all that tech... Just the new screens are gonna be serious money when they die one month out of warranty...

For me anyway, from now on it's oldies in the garage and a modern appliance in the driveway, under warranty or lease.. My 991.1 is very likely my last modern Porsche... naturally aspirated and already largely unusable in modern traffic...

I wish we could see the Flying Lizards livery on those new RSRs...

Oh man, me too!!

Yeah, it's pretty bad IMO. Looks like the bastard offspring of a Pontiac Aztec and a Cylon:

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Glen, buddy, your age is showing. It would be “nifty” if you just rolled with it since it now part of the lexicon. (And yes, the rear trunk is called the trunk.)

Now get off my lawn!

Wow! Tough crowd!

I'll be a voice of dissent amongst the ranks here. I like it. I especially like the rear end. To me it's an evolution in styling of the 991. I like that the taillights are narrower, I like the grille. I especially like the cockpit and am glad to see somewhat of a carryover of the "glass-cockpit" look that was introduced first in the Panamera and is working its way through the product line. To me, it says modern jetliner meet car... and they did it in the 911 while still respecting the traditional 5 gauge layout in front of the driver. I also like the throwback tach needle.

The only negative comment I have is that the big black plastic front grilles will have to grow on me. It seems to be a little too large... perhaps its that the is a more pronouned section in the center, where it was much smaller on the 991. Hopefully there will be a sport design (or whatever they call it) front bumper option.

The '70s and '80s are over folks. It's time to move into the future.