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javadog 10-12-2019 05:47 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.formula1.com/en/latest/article.saturday-running-cancelled-in-japan-full-revised-timetable-for-sunday.7bCNvGLXjco9zJUIEKgtvu.html

yellowperil 10-12-2019 06:40 AM

Thanks

Neilk 10-12-2019 10:58 AM

Damn, qualifying is at 8PM Central. Do you think the wife would be pissed if I canceled dinner plans?

javadog 10-13-2019 05:46 AM

Congratulations to the winner of the Bathing Ape Grand Prix.

Jeesus, what’s next?

:rolleyes:

astrochex 10-13-2019 08:15 AM

We know Won person who should be pretty stoked now.

Six in a row, drivers and manufacturers. Talk about domination. I wonder if they can exhale now?

Congrats.

Won 10-13-2019 02:29 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1571005664.jpg

I really like this shot. Must be only possible under the crossover bridge at Suzuka to blow out the background.

Happy for the team and what has been achieved! To the well-known Mercedes detractor among the Sky commentary team saying how lucky the team has been this year, I say: "The harder we work, the more luck we have". Apart from natural disasters, everything that happens in motorsport is based on some decision someone made at some point. Or is that in life? Still much to learn for me :)

Captain Ahab Jr 10-13-2019 03:17 PM

Congratulations Won and to all the rest of the team, think I may have mentioned this to you before but in case I haven't remember 'F1 is hard to get into but harder to get out of' ;)

Really pleased for you but jealous too as you have the only missing jigsaw piece I need to have the full set of F1 race team and driver achievements :cool:

Think this season might be my 20th and I'll have worked on 35 F1 cars if I include concept, customer and a land speed F1 cars, Hard to tell as F1 years are like dog years ;)

Neilk 10-14-2019 07:10 AM

Interesting race, some great passes.

I wonder if Hamilton could have won if he had not pitted a second time. Sky showed a stat showing his tire life was at 70-80% remaining. Did Mercedes force him to pit to put him on the same strategy as Bottas and give Bottas the win?

javadog 10-14-2019 07:24 AM

Hamilton said afterwards that he wouldn't have done well on those tires without the stop. I tend to wonder if he wouldn't have finished second, at the very least, had he not stopped.

Be interesting to hear what he says to the team in private this week...

legion 10-14-2019 07:41 AM

Hamilton couldn't get past Vettel because the Ferrari engine is so strong on the straights even though he had more grip and DRS. If the situation were reversed and Hamilton had old tires, Vettel would have blown right by him with DRS.

GH85Carrera 10-14-2019 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10622963)
Hamilton said afterwards that he wouldn't have done well on those tires without the stop. I tend to wonder if he wouldn't have finished second, at the very least, had he not stopped.

Be interesting to hear what he says to the team in private this week...

We all know he wants to win every race. He has helped win another manufacturers championship. So now it is down to just his teammate and he has a 64 point lead right now over Bottas. He will have to DNF several times for the race to the title to be a real contest. Mercedes finishes almost every single time in the points.

rfuerst911sc 10-16-2019 05:07 AM

Yahoo is not the go to source for all things F1 :D but they are reporting an agreement in principle for an F1 race to be held in Miami .


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/formula-1-agreement-principle-miami-082403199.html

bkreigsr 10-16-2019 05:11 AM

Probably the same group in F1 that agreed to the Edgewater/Palisades venue in NJ.

nota 10-16-2019 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkreigsr (Post 10624898)
Probably the same group in F1 that agreed to the Edgewater/Palisades venue in NJ.

NO that was burnies boy who had the NY/NJ deal

the new owners of F-1 want miami to happen as part of their plan for the future
so GAVE MIAMI THE RACE
the only other no pay a BIG FEE race is Monaco

rfuerst911sc 10-16-2019 08:02 AM

I'm curious why do you guys think F1 is pushing so hard for this Miami race ? Is the demand in the US so great that it warrants another venue ? Is it the proximity to Central and South America ? Is F1 thinking the US can support 2 - 3 races a year ? I'm not knocking the effort just curious why :D

legion 10-16-2019 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10625075)
I'm curious why do you guys think F1 is pushing so hard for this Miami race ? Is the demand in the US so great that it warrants another venue ? Is it the proximity to Central and South America ? Is F1 thinking the US can support 2 - 3 races a year ? I'm not knocking the effort just curious why :D

I think it comes down to two things:

1) The owners are US based.

2) Similar to the NFL in London, it is an unsaturated market for their product.

nota 10-16-2019 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10625075)
I'm curious why do you guys think F1 is pushing so hard for this Miami race ? Is the demand in the US so great that it warrants another venue ? Is it the proximity to Central and South America ? Is F1 thinking the US can support 2 - 3 races a year ? I'm not knocking the effort just curious why :D


i think is to build up future demand for F-1 in the USA
then a response to the current level of interest

liberty is much more interested in the future growing F-1
then burnie who wanted ever more cash for himself
or long term vs short term

this race is 100% about liberty's future growth of F-1 markets
with very little local push to make it happen or local funding
it would not happen at all without liberty pushing it

URY914 10-16-2019 09:57 AM

With Miami's international appeal it is a no brainer. Austin maybe a great venue but it ain't Miami.

cairns 10-16-2019 01:32 PM

Captain Ahab I have to ask- have you actually met my #1 hero Uncle Frank?

Jims5543 10-16-2019 01:45 PM

As I said before if the Race of champions was any indicator I think this is a mistake.

I was so excited to see ROC coming over to America, I have seen it in Europe before sell out crowds cheering and screaming in soccer stadiums.

They may have sold 20% of the seats in the Marlins stadium all weekend. I purchased tickets early making sure I got in before it sold out. LOL!!

I hope this works, Miami has a lot going on, and does not need an F1 race, unless they are going to stage it during the off season (Sept / Oct ) then it might be worth it. Then you have to convince folks to fly in. Our mass transit sucks. Our roads are already too crowded.

This is going to be interesting.

Captain Ahab Jr 10-16-2019 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cairns (Post 10625541)
Captain Ahab I have to ask- have you actually met my #1 hero Uncle Frank?

Yes, lucky to have had a couple of short conversations with him :cool:

Have a huge amount of respect as he built up the team from nothing, last of an almost extinct breed :(

He's still got a twinkle in his eye, pretty sharp considering everything, really hope I'm like that at his age

Williams is still the 2nd most successful F1 team in history so it's sad to see the mess they're in now

cairns 10-16-2019 03:04 PM

I absolutely adore Frank. And he's probably the only man I could say that about.

Still remember the Saudia days with Alan Jones (although I never cared much for him).

BTW IMO Miami sucks. Dozens of better venues for F1. We don't need another flat circuit or street race. No matter how trendy.

Besides as NOTA says in parf- it'll be under water in just a few years.

Rtrorkt 10-16-2019 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10625229)
With Miami's international appeal it is a no brainer. Austin maybe a great venue but it ain't Miami.

I went to the laughable race in the parking lot at Ceasar's in the day. Can only imagine what a "modern" parking lot race will look like. Ugh

astrochex 10-17-2019 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt (Post 10625924)
I went to the laughable race in the parking lot at Ceasar's in the day. Can only imagine what a "modern" parking lot race will look like. Ugh

I went to a Ceasar's F1 race too. I remember it more for the sound of the cars than the crappiness of the track.

Rtrorkt 10-17-2019 08:57 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1571331162.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1571331162.jpg

noise good, track bad, but at least there was Linda Vaughn

legion 10-17-2019 09:54 AM

So apparently Renault had automatic brake bias adjustment?

https://www.planetf1.com/news/renault-facing-suspension-if-found-guilty/

You'd think they'd have a faster car...

strupgolf 10-17-2019 05:59 PM

I can really see Miami as a second street race. It could rival Monoco as the premier race on the small streets of a beautiful city in a nice climate. Biscayne blvd. is a nice long avenue, lots of money close by, and a list of beautiful people lining the streets, just what the new owners are looking for. I myself, would go there long before I would go to Austin. It would be something like the old Long Beach F1 race.

Jims5543 10-17-2019 06:32 PM

Except they are not running downtown they are running way out west of town in da hood.

Does Monaco have a hood?

nota 10-17-2019 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 10627128)
Except they are not running downtown they are running way out west of town in da hood.

Does Monaco have a hood?

that is called france :D

nota 10-17-2019 07:41 PM

btw the stadium is in a middle class part black area all single family homes

we have hoods but none really near there

still not a good location for a track or a good track layout

homestead oval road course sucks less
but the damm thing should be downtown
the old gp sports car tracks downtown were better [ they changed every year]
but the heat arena killed that + a shopping mall

that said I finally get a real miami GP worse case

nota 10-17-2019 07:53 PM

to bad they can't shut down the cloverleaf [I95+826+FL-TP]
NOW THAT WOULD BE A TRACK

but then the city would gridlock

URY914 10-18-2019 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 10627182)
to bad they can't shut down the cloverleaf [I95+826+FL-TP]
NOW THAT WOULD BE A TRACK

but then the city would gridlock

Make it run the I-95 to 836 to the 826 and back to 95. (if I got that right.) it's like an F1 race on those roads anyway.

astrochex 10-18-2019 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 10627128)
Except they are not running downtown they are running way out west of town in da hood.

Does Monaco have a hood?

Downtown Long Beach was not a tourist destination with its seedy bits (original track passed an adult theater) before F1 came to town. Maybe Miami is hoping for the same affect.

CurtEgerer 10-18-2019 04:28 AM

Part of the long-lost glory days for Williams, Keke No.1 1983.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1571401628.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1571401628.jpg

CurtEgerer 10-18-2019 04:37 AM

Oops, forgot the obligatory Linda Vaughn pic (83 Detroit GP).



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1571402187.jpg

rfuerst911sc 10-18-2019 04:45 AM

Haas manager Steiner on the teams issues
 
So Steiner say's he and the team know why they are off the pace , they can't consistently get and keep heat in the tires . This article doesn't say how long he and the team have known this but he's indicating that the remaining races do not look good for the team . If they have some things to try wouldn't they want to try them NOW to see what works or doesn't work ? He's indicating they want to make sure next years car is better , how do you do that without trying things ? Do you completely rely on wind tunnel testing ? Or engineering CAD modeling ? Isn't that the same tools that got you to this years car ???

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/steiner-haas-f1-team-resigned-161138573.html

Deschodt 10-22-2019 07:13 AM

Wondering what's gonna happen with the teams "stretching the rules" (some have said outright cheating), all that before the 2021 deal, and nobody exactly beating at the door to join F1...

Renault with their brake bias by GPS (supposedly), unless it's something cleverer and skirting the edge of the rules... Ferrari with their "controlled oil leak into the combustion chamber" boosting the engine.

Teams know so much about one another now, with GPS, sound analysis and mature engine techs that should all converge to a set HP number, they know what can be achieved and what cannot... It's crazy, cool and sad at the same time... I bet the FIA sides with "Clever and not illegal, but illegal from now on" to preserve current participants and not have another cheating scandal!

sammyg2 10-22-2019 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cairns (Post 10625651)
I absolutely adore Frank. And he's probably the only man I could say that about.

I'm not sure about Sir Francis after the Senna accident, but I can say for sure that I adore Claire :)

greglepore 10-22-2019 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 10627336)
Part of the long-lost glory days for Williams, Keke No.1 1983.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1571401628.jpg

Crazy to imagine where his feet are in that pic.

astrochex 10-23-2019 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 10627336)
Part of the long-lost glory days for Williams, Keke No.1 1983.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1571401628.jpg

I got his autograph as a fan at an LBGP after he retired. I was walking in the crowd and saw him. I thought "holy *****", that's Keke Rosberg F1 World Champion, whats he doing out and about? He was kind and accommodating.


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