Patriots - again!

[flskala]

How do you not take Edelman out of the game...? The 3rd. down conversions on the Final drive sealed KC's fate. LA has a real Defense but weaker offensively than KC. If this kid head coach can pull this off, his life will be set *for eternity.* Here's hopin :-)

[Tobra]

meh, the officials kept it close

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by chapo

You realize the "tuck rule" was created by and for Tom Brady in the AFC Championship game against the Raiders, leading to the modern rules of hitting the QB, right?

Please explain how the tuck rule has anything at all to do with the rules to protect the quarterback from injury.
I was under the impression that the two are completely separate issues and have nothing to do with each other.

Oh wait, it's really all about hate Brady. Got it.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by cabmando

KC has a lot to look forward to as long as Mahomes keeps his head on straight and doesn't go for being the highest paid QB. A quick look at where Brady ranks in pay shows you won't find him in the top 15 for pay among QB's... but you'll find him with the most Super Bowl appearances and wins. Another quick look at the highest paid QB and you'll find that several were watching the playoffs from home.

Brady turns down the big contracts to keep the salary cap down, so they can afford to build a better team around him. IMO that's the difference between a star and a champion.

Besides, looking at his house I really don't think he is hurting for money, he has a MOAT!!!!

[stevej37]

A couple years old...but still relevant.

[Tobra]

Yeah, but he drinks beet juice and coconut water, not beer

[KFC911]

Hold my beet juice and coconut water and watch this

He and Brees have been fun to watch for years....KC has a young one too.. at an extremely high level of skill. I like it...

[sammyg2]

Seen on the sign in front of a Maine church last week:



https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/maine-pastor-accurately-predicts-patriots-chiefs-score-would-like-to-think-it-was-divine-intervention

[red-beard]

I was hoping the Saints won, so we could call it the "Geezer Bowl".

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Brady turns down the big contracts to keep the salary cap down, so they can afford to build a better team around him. IMO that's the difference between a star and a champion.

a lot of the franchise QB's do that. look at Ben. He keeps his salary down to pay for his very good offensive line.

That's the thing with the NFL is the greed amongst the skill players. the NFL was never meant to play guys a few seasons and retire off of it (especially when these players are out breaking the law and buying stupid expensive cars).

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid

a lot of the franchise QB's do that. look at Ben. He keeps his salary down to pay for his very good offensive line.

That's the thing with the NFL is the greed amongst the skill players. the NFL was never meant to play guys a few seasons and retire off of it (especially when these players are out breaking the law and buying stupid expensive cars).

If you're talking about Roethlisberger, he makes about 6 million more per year than Brady. Ben takes in around 21M and Brady 15M. Add to that we have or had people like Lev Bell and AB wanting more and more and now you know why the Steelers are home watching the Patriots play in another Super Bowl. The Patriots bring in people that want to play for the team. The Steelers have people constantly wanting paid. Honestly the Steelers have more overall talent than the Patriots but a terrible Head coach and defensive coordinator.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Honestly the Steelers have more overall talent than the Patriots but a terrible Head coach and defensive coordinator.

How much does Belichick play into that overall talent math?

That SOB is a God.

I just wish the Browns could have had him.

[sammyg2]

lol remember this?
I bet that hack reporter never lived it down. His predictions could give corgi a run for his money.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

How much does Belichick play into that overall talent math?

That SOB is a God.

I just wish the Browns could have had him.

I contend that the Steelers biggest problem is the Head Coach. The Steelers are loaded with talent but lack discipline. One thing that can't be said about the Patriots is that they lack discipline and that does start with the H.C.

Sammy,
In the reporter's defense BB did coach the Browns and didn't do all that well.

[sammyg2]

“Pats Get Their Man: Bill Just Not The Ticket”:
Boston Herald, Jan. 28, 2000

Football coaches worth surrendering first-round draft picks for: Vince Lombardi. George Halas. Paul Brown. Bill Parcells. Joe Gibbs. Don Shula. Chuck Noll. Tom Landry, Bill Walsh.

Sorry folks. Bill Belichick does not fit the mold. He is not in that coaching stratosphere. Not in my book, anyway. He’s not worth the tariff the Patriots surrendered to Parcells and the Jets yesterday. He’s not someone for whom I’d hand over that kind of ransom, especially when that ransom is going to one of my chief AFC East rivals.

…Considering the Patriots could have potentially landed the general manager and coaching combination of Tom Donohoe and Dom Capers – for no picks whatsoever – why would you surrender a first-round pick and change for someone who doesn’t bring any more to the table?

“Patriots will regret hiring Belichick”
USA Today, Jan. 28, 2000:

The moments after Belichick took the podium and announced he was resigning his 24-hour position as “HC” of the “NYJ” were the moments New England should’ve realized it had a “BP” that better “GAF.”

As in “big problem” that better “go away fast.” For Belichick’s press conference, called on account of greed, exposed a man you wouldn’t want running your $2 hot dog stand, never mind your $500 million team.

The Patriots will regret the business they conducted Thursday, and not necessarily because they gave the Jets their first-round pick in this year’s draft. College prospects are as predictable as Atlanta’s winters. When Parcells was traded to the Jets, the Patriots received a small circle of draft choices that, in the end, did nothing to prevent Pete Carroll’s demise.

…So Bob Kraft’s wildest gamble has nothing to do with ends and safeties, and everything to do with the middle-aged mess he hired to coach them.

The Repository (Canton, OH)
from Jan. 29, 2000:

Sam Rutigliano, who was the Browns’ head coach from 1978 through late in the 1984 season, never saw Belichick as head coaching material.

“You can say all you want about Art Modell,” Rutigliano, who recently announced his retirement after 11 years as head coach at Liberty University, said in a recent interview. “Hiring Belichick was the greatest error that Art ever made … and the biggest error you make is when you live with the error.”

…“If you’ve ever watched Bill Belichick — and you guys went through the pain of watching him for five years — he just doesn’t have the communicative abilities to handle that part of the job,” Rutigliano said. “I think that he’s miscast as a head coach. It’s very obvious he is outstanding as a defensive coordinator. That’s where he belongs.”

Rams head coach Dick Vermeil was a little more accurate in his assessment in that same piece:

“I believe in my profession and I believe there are people who can make a difference in a leadership role as a head coach,” Vermeil said. “And I think that is a small price to pay for the right guy.

“I don’t know Bill Belichick that well, but the Patriots obviously think that much of him. If they’re right, it is a tremendous investment. To me, there have been a ton of first-round flops. If you get the right NFL coach, he will change your organization.”

[cabmandone]

Dick Vermeil is spot on. Look no further than the Rams for proof of what he was talking about.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Sammy,
In the reporter's defense BB did coach the Browns and didn't do all that well.

This is true, He grew into greatness and it didn't happen overnight.

Do you remember who the head coach of the patriots was that Belichick replaced?
He got a job on the college level and built one heck of a dynasty for a decade.
If I'm not mistaken he won a superbowl coaching the sea-chickens and lost a superbowl in 2014 .... to Belichick.

As head coach, Pete Carroll led a resurgence of football at the University of Southern California. Carroll was generally regarded as one of the top college football coaches in the country,[32][45][46] and has been compared to College Football Hall of Fame coach Knute Rockne.[47][48] Program highlights under Carroll include:
Two BCS Championship Game appearances: 2005 win over Oklahoma and 2006 loss to Texas
The Associated Press 2003 National Championship
The Associated Press 2004 National Championship
Seven consecutive Associated Press Top-4 finishes
Six BCS bowl victories
Seven consecutive BCS bowl appearances
A national-record 33 consecutive weeks as the Associated Press's No. 1-ranked team
A winning record of 97–19 (83.6%)
A winning record of 14–2 against traditional rivals Notre Dame and UCLA
An NCAA record of 63 straight 20-point games
Twenty-five 1st team All-Americans
53 players selected in the NFL Draft, including 14 in the first round[49]
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Carson Palmer in 2002, Matt Leinart in 2004, and Reggie Bush in 2005 (since vacated)
Four Top-5 recruiting classes
34-game winning streak (2003–04)
Winning streaks for home games (21) and Pac-10 home games (17)
A 25–1 record in the month of November

In July 2007, ESPN.com named USC its #1 team of the decade for the period between 1996 and 2006, primarily citing the Trojans' renaissance and dominance under Carroll.[50][51] In 2007, his effect on the college football landscape was named one of the biggest developments over the past decade in ESPN the Magazine.[52] In May 2008, Carroll was named the coach who did the most to define the first 10 years of the BCS Era.[53]

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Sammy,
In the reporter's defense BB did coach the Browns and didn't do all that well.

They had an awesome defense under him.

Baby steps.

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Brady turns down the big contracts to keep the salary cap down, so they can afford to build a better team around him. IMO that's the difference between a star and a champion.

Besides, looking at his house I really don't think he is hurting for money, he has a MOAT!!!!

Meh, probably his wife's money.

Just saw a meme today with Tom Brady on it. The caption read: "I don't always go to the Superbowl....oh wait, I do!"

Has to be the best ever, and he has made the sacrifices to be the best. Although I wouldn't say he has sacrificed everything.



Both were great football games. Sad that the officials played a decisive role in each.