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sammyg2 02-14-2019 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Instrument 41 (Post 10354683)
Any advice on how to strip this wire back to attach a new light fixture. This is for a wall sconce and the original thought was to get rid of the fixture. However....after the project she decided to keep it. There isn't any slack in that wire to pull it out any more. Any suggestions??http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550111727.jpg

Move the light fixture down about 6 inches? ;)

scottmandue 02-14-2019 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10355088)
Move the light fixture down about 6 inches? ;)

Beat me to it!

dad911 02-14-2019 07:39 AM

1) Fire whoever cut the wire. No reason for it. Never bury wires, even if unused. Should have wire nutted leads, and put a blank plate on it.
2) proper repair would be to (a) cut back sheetrock and find some slack. (b) move box to make slack. (c) If you can possibly strip leads, a push in connector would need less slack than a wire nut.

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cabmandone 02-14-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 10354692)
Cut the sheetrock, put in a junction box, splice in a longer wire, patch the sheetrock.

Most electrical code prohibits a junction box inside a wall.

I'd see if you can find the source for the wire and pull a new one. If you home is on a basement and the wire on an inside wall with a source through a switch, it wouldn't be hard to replace the wire.

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10354955)
Why is that so? Enquiring mind query.

I think it has something to do with a wire nut causing heat and the fact that if the wire nut came loose, it wouldn't be serviceable and could short out causing a fire.

dad911 02-14-2019 08:09 AM

I would remove that box, a hacksaw blade between the box and wood, and cut the nails.

Then strip the wire, use an 'old work box' and push-in connectors to add new tails.

Easy-peasy, 30 minute (1 beer) job, less than $10.

With the box out, I also suspect a 'gentle yet persuasive' pull on the wire will find another inch or so.

cabmandone 02-14-2019 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 10355164)
I would remove that box, a hacksaw blade between the box and wood, and cut the nails.

Then strip the wire, use an 'old work box' and push-in connectors to add new tails.

Easy-peasy, 30 minute (1 beer) job, less than $10.

With the box out, I also suspect a 'gentle yet persuasive' pull on the wire will find another inch or so.

^^^ That!
Most electricians will leave a little extra. If you give the wire a gentle tug you might get a bit more to work with.... unless the electrician used a wire staple on the stud the box is mounted to... Then you're shafted. A pair of needle nose pliars should tell the story pretty quickly without removing the box.

1990C4S 02-14-2019 09:11 AM

A box in the wall is permitted with an access cover. Is there a hutch or cabinet below that could hide a box?

The new box could also be a switched outlet which then feeds the sconce....

Or a box with a receptacle that is not wired. It's simply a J-box.

Less liked solution:

Cage clamp butt splice.

Wago and others make them.

1990C4S 02-14-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10355175)
unless the electrician used a wire staple on the stud the box is mounted to... Then you're shafted. A pair of needle nose pliars should tell the story pretty quickly without removing the box.

The staple should not clamp the wire...if it's done right it will pull through. If it's done wrong it won't.

Instrument 41 02-14-2019 03:47 PM

Thanks guys for all the info. There isn;t any slack in that wire. If there was then I would not be dealing with this issue. I'm gonna tackle this in the morning.

freeform911 02-14-2019 04:36 PM

Maybe cut the hole in the box( if it's plastic)
that the wire is run through to beable to pull the wire a little more forward.

Get a cheap extendable utility knike and cut the sheathing from the romex.. at that point you should beable to add pig tails.


Or...pull that box completely out..should be held on with only 1 or 2 nails, do what you have to with the wires and replace the box with a remodel type.
It's easy to install, just 2 wings the pull to the back side of the sheetrock..

Crowbob 02-14-2019 04:56 PM

Don’t cut the wire!

My experience with such matters is that no matter how many times I cut something, a board, a wire, a finger it’s still too short.

Starless 02-15-2019 04:55 AM

Cover it up. She had her chance.

Instrument 41 02-15-2019 02:08 PM

OK guys, finished this project. Cut out the bottom of the box and it gave just enough in the wire to get to it and strip it. Tha'ts 156 on a list of about 700, down and out.

freeform911 02-15-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Instrument 41 (Post 10356853)
OK guys, finished this project. Cut out the bottom of the box and it gave just enough in the wire to get to it and strip it. Tha'ts 156 on a list of about 700, down and out.


Good job!!! It was probably easier than you were anticipating it being..

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