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Instrument 41 02-13-2019 06:35 PM

Wire cut to short
 
Any advice on how to strip this wire back to attach a new light fixture. This is for a wall sconce and the original thought was to get rid of the fixture. However....after the project she decided to keep it. There isn't any slack in that wire to pull it out any more. Any suggestions??http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550111727.jpg

Por_sha911 02-13-2019 06:40 PM

Cut the sheetrock, put in a junction box, splice in a longer wire, patch the sheetrock.

freeform911 02-13-2019 06:51 PM

Why not use a wire nut and a longer piece of wire.
Strip the line and use a piece of wire and wire nut them together. Basically turning the existing box into a j box

Instrument 41 02-13-2019 06:55 PM

Not sure I can get in there to strip it. My digits area not so long....

freeform911 02-13-2019 07:00 PM

Can you pull the wire from the bottom of the box, strip and feed back through?

In the pics it seems the drywall isn't overly close the box.

How bout a razor knife to cut the outer insulation, nice in easy not to go through the insulation of the individual wires, then uyou can separate the 3 wires and strip independently with the razor knife. Wire nut and added wire (×3)

A930Rocket 02-13-2019 07:01 PM

Code doesn’t allow hidden J- boxes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 10354692)
Cut the sheetrock, put in a junction box, splice in a longer wire, patch the sheetrock.


MBAtarga 02-13-2019 07:04 PM

I'd think the light fixture wiring might be long enough to reach the romex using wire nuts - if you can get the wires exposed and free to use them.

Another option - there is a product made by Tyco that allows a romex splice without the use of a junction box. They are "usually" allowed by local code. I've never used one but it will prevent you having a junction box right there on the wall - as you can't hide a splice in a junction box within a wall per code. I assume with the white jacket that's 14AWG.
Here is a source:
https://www.zoro.com/te-connectivity-non-metallic-splice-14-to-12-awg-300v-wt-cpgi-1116377-2/i/G3673695/

KFC911 02-13-2019 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instrument 41 (Post 10354683)

Sold...to the next sucka ;)!

Gogar 02-13-2019 07:54 PM

Is it still legal if you can splice it with let's say. . . a 3" length of fresh romex that still fits inside the box?

+1 hidden boxes are most certainly illegal.

freeform911 02-13-2019 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 10354754)
Is it still legal if you can splice it with let's say. . . a 3" length of fresh romex that still fits inside the box?

+1 hidden boxes are most certainly illegal.

Pretty sure it's just a j box at that point. Its is accessible box..not hidden

Gogar 02-13-2019 08:08 PM

Well then the quick answer is to jam that schit in there and see if you can make it happen.

look 171 02-13-2019 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 10354717)
I'd think the light fixture wiring might be long enough to reach the romex using wire nuts - if you can get the wires exposed and free to use them.

Another option - there is a product made by Tyco that allows a romex splice without the use of a junction box. They are "usually" allowed by local code. I've never used one but it will prevent you having a junction box right there on the wall - as you can't hide a splice in a junction box within a wall per code. I assume with the white jacket that's 14AWG.
Here is a source:
https://www.zoro.com/te-connectivity-non-metallic-splice-14-to-12-awg-300v-wt-cpgi-1116377-2/i/G3673695/


I don't know about that thing?

RSBob 02-13-2019 09:00 PM

Hate to tell you but you also cut the ‘too’ in the title of your post one o too short and there is no junction box that can repair that.

Like others suggested get some hemostats and pull the wire out below the box, strip them and reinsert back into the box. If those are not long enough to use wire nuts, can the box be moved down a few inches?

PD41 02-13-2019 09:01 PM

Your suppose to have 6" of wire sticking outside of the box.

Just splice on some extra wire and close it up, no one will ever know.

look 171 02-13-2019 09:05 PM

Someone mentioned use a utility knife and strip the sheathing back and strip the plastic off the actual wire and wire light directly to that. I have done lot of that doing picking up after someone years ago. Just have to have smaller hands. Perfectly legal with the exception of the 6" or wire sticking outside the box. I think it was 7" if the inspector wants to nitpick.

DanielDudley 02-14-2019 01:38 AM

It is so common to wire on extensions that they call them pig tails. You can strip the wire back and twist the two wires together with dikes before you put the wire nut on.

It is a lot easier than it looks. If you fail, cut in a box lower in the wall and put in a switched outlet. It is like a junction box, except it looks like it is supposed to be there.

This stuff is a lot harder to think about than it is to do.

jshape 02-14-2019 05:17 AM

You might try Wago connectors. They might be easier than trying to wind on wire nuts.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1550150140.jpg

flatbutt 02-14-2019 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 10354754)
Is it still legal if you can splice it with let's say. . . a 3" length of fresh romex that still fits inside the box?

+1 hidden boxes are most certainly illegal.

Why is that so? Enquiring mind query.

billybek 02-14-2019 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10354955)
Why is that so? Enquiring mind query.

Simply because you must be able to access all connections and splices.

stomachmonkey 02-14-2019 05:45 AM

Looks like you can pull wire out of junction box and back out between box and sheetrock.

Should gain you at least another inch or more of working room.

Butt splice on another length of wire and feed back into junction box.


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