My dachshund is hopeless. She is smart and quick to train. But when she is on a mouse in the woodpile a direct strike by a bolt of lightening won't distract her.

+1 on gundogsupply got a very nice collar from those cats, leather and brass, no zappy, though sometimes I wish it did. Younger stripey one is just like your dachs when he is on a squirrel or sees a turkey. He goes a buck thirty, and it is fairly astounding how high he can jump, still thinks he is a lap dog though. I like my dogs to have a harness, in case I need to grab them out of the water or something.

You have to work with them, take them out and run them around, I use little treats, but prey drive on my younger dog is strong.

Got 2 sisters, German Shepard Great Pyranese mix. Use Garmin collars, forget which model, that have an led light feature which is awesome for keeping track of the dogs in the yard at night (30 acres fenced). Thelma (compare to the velociraptor from Jurassic Park, always thinking) was zapped once on lowest setting and responds to tone only almost every time. Louise (happy go lucky, dumb as a box of rocks) ignores anything lower than a 3 out of six, sometimes ignores the 6 when going after the horse, even after having 4 teeth kicked out. So some dogs respond better than others, but I have been very pleased with these collars. As an added bonus it is fun to watch cars slow down at night trying to figure out what the bouncing led lights are that are coming towards them.

I've used bark collars on a couple of different dogs. Not the same, I know, but I suspect similar enough.

It's not that bad. For one German Shepherd, we started at the lowest setting (there should be several) and then increased the shock until it kept her from barking. We now use one on a mini dachshund. I've tested it on myself. It's not painful or anything, more surprising/shocking than anything else.

We bought, but never used a training shock collar. It had multiple, programmable levels of shock, and you could start low and go high. I think it also beeped when you hit it, so on low power, it put out a light shock and a beep.

We've had good luck with "Petsafe" brand products.
https://www.petsafe.net/training-behavior/remote-trainers

I think that's the brand of shock collar we had years ago. It did seem indestructable.

We have a 30 lb mini labradoodle. Sweetest dog you could want to know but paid no attention when called. There is a lagoon across the fairway from us that has alligators in it and we needed to make sure he would come when called. We did "Off Leash" training with him which included the shock collar. Best thing we ever did...he comes when called, he'll heel, do "place" etc. and very seldomly needs a shock. Hardly ever leash him unless other walkers are coming near us (the neighborhood has rules). The one poster was right saying turning it too high is a mistake. When he won't mind, you just need enough to get his attention. You can put it on your hand and do it and barely feel it. Bottom line for me is it was the best money we ever spent on him. My 2 cents.

That's the same one we have and have been using for 5 years. Had to put a battery (available on line) in the collar a year or so ago. Totally happy with it.

Garmin bought out Tritronics and improved the an already great product.

Re-reading my earlier post, I feel my tone was a little testy and I apologize for that. I teach dog-training as a volunteer in youth programs for juvenile offenders. A number of, supposedly professional 'trainers' I come in contact with have, what I will call, rather dubious qualifications. Many of these are quick to condemn training methods they have no experience with: and they don't mind preaching their wrong-headed opinions... vociferously! When the subject of e-collars comes up, I have to bite my tongue more often than I'd like. It gets me a bit testy. Sorry if that came through here!

Robert

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Thanks for all the comments about this topic. It is not an easy one for myself also. She is a very intelligent dog. Does very well at most commands but this one prey instinct has me concerned. So the trainer suggested the collar. This is the one I have ordered. Thanks for all the feedback. I will post about the progress. Glenn

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Pretty sure when you asked about this pup before you acquired it the general consensus here was don't do it.

If you are having trouble now at 6 months just wait till it reaches maturity and starts thinking for itself.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/969262-thinking-getting-dog.html

I have no regrets getting her just asking about training aids to make her life and mine a little better. Thanks Glenn

After reading the thread SM posted (what's done is done ;)), and it sounds as if your're doing just fine....the collar is a good move if used by a "trainer"..... are you "there yet"? If not, is "your" trainer gonna teach ya? You got this...eyes wide open man. Best of luck....never been around the breed. Great dawgs come in all flavors :)!

My recommendation.

Find another trainer, one that specializes in working security dogs.

High prey drive is a desired trait in security dogs and is often what makes them less than ideal pets.

Work with someone who works with the trait, not just dogs.

^^^^ I'll defer to others that have been around 'em. Some breeds...I won't own (Chows being one)...tread with care and keep on truckin'.

I plan to have a GSD poopy soon....been around lots of "scary" breeds too...so I ain't skeerd ;)

With our beagle I could set it to taser levels and he would just keep running when it was done. The citronella works. I think it messes up the scent he is on.

The reviews had a comment where one couple had a wiener dog the loved the smell and would bark to get it to spray and then run through the house rubbing on everything. Over and over.

Our lab we just need to call her. Assuming she can hear us in her old age, she comes right away.