Thoughts on safes - Page 2

Bill Douglas · 10-21-2019, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bleucamaro

drawback is the electronic lock,

Be careful. I got told by an Arms Officer thieves bust the plastic keypad off, jumper a couple of wires, and the safe unlocks for them.

speeder · speeder's Garage

I know nothing about safes other than that they are heavy but I have a close friend who is a locksmith and pretty sure he’s the top safe cracker on the west coast. Former criminal in another life, now he opens safes for the LAPD, LAC Sheriff, FBI, etc., along w countless private customers.

I’ll ask him for this thread.

biosurfer1 · 10-21-2019, 04:36 PM

I would think a shoe box in a very well thought out hiding place would be time/money better spent.

Scott Douglas · Scott Douglas's Garage

Found an old hardware store while on a trip helping out my brother. They use an old safe for their money at night.
The tooling of this thing really got to me so I went back and took a photo of it the next day.

KFC911 · 10-21-2019, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1

I would think a shoe box in a very well thought out hiding place would be time/money better spent.

Until the fire...

tabs · 10-21-2019, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911

Be safe...even just a little bit imo.

I don't want some "smash & grab" lowlifes to have a supply of "street spoons", plus the sentimental value I have attached....it's not about the $. Any cheap safe will do that...plus some fire protection. I don't live in the boonies....mine is rated 1 hr (30 min would be fine), bolted to the floor...good enough for me.

The only jewels I have are the family jewels where they are of no value to anyone except myslef for sentimental reasons.

Bill Douglas · 10-21-2019, 08:51 PM

Lol

Cajundaddy · Cajundaddy's Garage

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

I bought a second hand safe recently - ebay sorta purchase, cheap as chips. But looks good.

I can only just lift it myself. I've got it in the house not bolted down and filled with cans of dog food.

The idea is that when some halfwits burgle the place the first thing they will find is a safe that they can only just manage to carry out to the car then will be gone. They will be surprised when instead of gold and diamonds it's cans of dog food.

Thanks Bill, this made my day! A classic decoy move that would very likely distract 95% of goons into wasting their time and ignoring other genuine valuables. Brilliant!

KFC911 · 10-22-2019, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs

The only jewels I have are the family jewels where they are of no value to anyone except myslef for sentimental reasons.

NIB... never used, or just plain ol' shooters? Condition is everything

LWJ · 10-22-2019, 04:09 AM

"Dog food"

Genius!

GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

I have a safe I got from my grandparents. It is the very safe that Armour and company used at the Oklahoma City slaughter house and packing plant. My grandfather worked there from the day the plant opened until it closed. In the end he was instrumental in setting up the credit union the workers used. It is one heavy beast.

It has my paperwork and an old coin collection I started when I was about 10. Nothing of much real value, just sentiment, but I want to keep the crack heads or smash and grab folks out of it. Since I got it for free, back in 1981 or so, I will keep it right where it is.

It is fun to sometimes go through the old coins and see the same coins I started collecting in the mid 1960s. Lots of worn out circulated silver nickles, dimes, and quarters. A few half dollars. They are all just silver value now. I mowed a lot of yards to get the quarter to swap for the silver one at face value.

bleucamaro · 10-22-2019, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Be careful. I got told by an Arms Officer thieves bust the plastic keypad off, jumper a couple of wires, and the safe unlocks for them.

I don't know what an Arms Officer is, but the keypad is just the input device. Its removable with a 1/8 turn to the left, to access the batteries. To remove / replace it, its just an RJ15 connector. The memory and brains are all contained within the lock itself, internal to the safe-door.

Bill Douglas · 10-22-2019, 01:08 PM

Arms Officer. Around here, in New Zealand, a bunch of Government guys check our safes are correct and we have the same "restricted" guns meaning hand guns/Uzis/Browning machine etc in the safe as they have registered to our name.

He said when a keypad has the numbers correctly entered it sends a signal down two wires to the motor that winds the locking mechanism back. thieves jumper the wires.

flatbutt · 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Be careful. I got told by an Arms Officer thieves bust the plastic keypad off, jumper a couple of wires, and the safe unlocks for them.

It's getting hard to find a non-electric safe.

Any experience with these?

https://www.steelwatergunsafes.com/product/egs5922-standard-duty/

Bill Douglas · 10-22-2019, 07:57 PM

Phew, now THAT'S a real safe.

WPOZZZ · 10-22-2019, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Be careful. I got told by an Arms Officer thieves bust the plastic keypad off, jumper a couple of wires, and the safe unlocks for them.

Use a magnet.

Bill Douglas · 10-22-2019, 11:47 PM

Bastard. He's not stealing MY dog's dinner LOL

WPOZZZ · 10-23-2019, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs

The only jewels I have are the family jewels where they are of no value to anyone except myslef for sentimental reasons.

Just put 'em in a box.

tabs · 10-23-2019, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

Just put 'em in a box.

I like to take them out and play with them.

tabs · 10-23-2019, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911

NIB... never used, or just plain ol' shooters? Condition is everything

Every once in a while you have to test fire them...to make sure that they are in good working order. Cause you never know when you will need one..