High HOAs

[T77911S]

my friend lives in a very large neighborhood so there are lots of kids.
she is a single mom with 2 little boys.
I bought the boys a basketball goal for Christmas. it was a small one.
well they bent it when some of the bigger kids hung on it so I found a bigger one used and bought that one. mean while I welded enough steel on the small one that I could now hang on it.
anyway, she gets a letter from the HOA saying she is violating the rules.
ALL basketball goals have to be stored in the garage when not in use.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING !!!!! a neighborhood this big with all the kids and you cant have a basketball goal in your driveway.

well the small one fits in her garage but the big one wont. so now I guess I need to find someone that needs a big one.

[jhynesrockmtn]

I grew up in a planned neighborhood with pretty strong HOA's that was started in the 60's. One of the requirements was that all houses had to be roofed with cedar shakes. My kindergarten teachers family roofed their new home in asphalt shingles. The HOA took them to court and they lost and ended up having to re-roof their brand new home. Buy a house with rules and play by them I guess.

[asphaltgambler]

Which is why I dont live in a neighborhood with HOA. Been there- dun that

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn

I grew up in a planned neighborhood with pretty strong HOA's that was started in the 60's. One of the requirements was that all houses had to be roofed with cedar shakes. My kindergarten teachers family roofed their new home in asphalt shingles. The HOA took them to court and they lost and ended up having to re-roof their brand new home. Buy a house with rules and play by them I guess.

One of my friends live in a area that required wood shake shingles. He tried to do something different and his own lawyer told him he is going to lose. So he paid for the new shake roof. A few years later the fire storms started in that area. A few houses burned because of the shingles catching fire so easily. The county changed the law, shakes were no longer allowed on repairs. So a few years later he got the roof he wanted.

In many neighborhoods I have driven through I see the almost obligatory basketball goal in the driveway. Most of the time, it has been there for many years, and not used. It is in disrepair, and a real eyesore. The pole is bent, and rusty, the hoop is bent down and the youngest child at the household is college age, so it has not been played with in years.

I bet your friend bought into the neighborhood and was given the association rules before she bought.

[T77911S]

no HOA for me either.

my point was its such a large neighborhood with LOTS of kids but yet they cant have a basket ball goal in the driveway.
and yet they wonder why the kids do things that are destructive.

there is no way SHE could get the bigger goal in her garage. not even sure I could with it full of water.

[jhynesrockmtn]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I have to agree. The HOA has not had anyone executed or arrested and imprisoned anyone and taken their possessions. If you don't like the HOA, move and don't move to an area with a new HOA.

Agreed. My earlier post regarding the roof was not meant to demean the value of HOA's. If you don't like them, don't buy into a neighborhood with them. If you do, abide by them. They are meant to protect everyone's property values. Even at the tender age of 10, I understood they should not have built a house with the wrong roof and then tried to fight it after it was done :-)

[stomachmonkey]

HOA's can be weird about basketball hoops.

In mine you are not allowed to attach it to the house even if, like in the case of one neighbor, the hoop is attached in a way that it can't be seen from the street.

Portable hoops are permitted but not in the street and must be stored out of sight when not being used.

Permanent hoops are permitted but must be on a pole set in cement and next to the driveway which makes them visible all the time.

So which is it, do they not want the hoop to be seen or not?

[pmax]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I have to agree. The HOA has not had anyone executed or arrested and imprisoned anyone and taken their possessions.

Wrong .... you can be executed for being deliquent on the HOA fees.

If you don't like the HOA, move and don't move to an area with a new HOA.

Yup. The other option is to infiltrate the board.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by pmax

Wrong .... you can be executed for being deliquent on the HOA fees.



Yup. The other option is to infiltrate the board.

OK, I understand you are joking about it.

The HOA has no recourse, except to get the fees upon the selling of the property. One of my other friends was a real estate agent. He talked about a case where a home owner refused to pay the HOA for many years. Upon his eventual death, and then the kids selling the house, the HOA had a large (10s of thousands) lien on the property. All the former owner succeed in doing is reduce the inheritance of his kids by a lot. It is a legal contract.

In our neighborhood we have a HOA. It does not permit multi family residence. One of the owners rented her house to 4 single men. Each had a vehicle, and each parked on the street each night. That is another no-no. Long term, only parking in the driveway or in the garage is allowed. The HOA contacted the owner, and at first she was ready for a fight. Her own lawyer told her she would lose. She sold the house and a nice couple moved in, and the parking in the street issue is gone. The neighborhood looks nice and no cars parked in the street.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

HOAs are nothing more than legalized extortion rackets created and operated by over-compensators that are diminutive in both body and mind.

[group911@aol.co]

Like em, hate em. You should probably follow their rules while you fight em. Case in point:

GYPSUM, Colo. (CBS4) – Home owners associations are common in our Colorado communities, but many people don’t realize just how much power they wield. Randy Eisenhart says his half a million dollar home was foreclosed on over a couple hundred dollars due to his HOA.

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CBS4 met with Eisenhart during a busy morning inside the warehouse at American Stone in Gypsum where he has chiseled out a thriving small business.
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“Been in gypsum since 2005,” Eisenhart told CBS4.

And he’s called the home he built on Grundel Way in the Chatfield Corners neighborhood his dream house-turned nightmare now.

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“I didn’t understand that this could happen to me had I known anything about what they could do with the power of the HOA as I would’ve absolutely paid the lien,” Eisenhart said.

This all started in 2016 when Eisenhart says he refused to pay a $110 HOA due over another $100 charge the HOA demanded for a trash can.

The Chatfield Corners Owners Association filed a lien on his house, the fees started stacking up and Eisenhart tells CBS4 he never received any notices about what the HOA was in the process of doing. Then, just before Christmas he got a major surprise.


Eisenhart says he had no idea his home was being foreclosed on until he came home to an eviction notice posted on his front door on Dec. 3 of 2017.

“I had no idea that they could even do that to you,” Eisenhart said.

According to Eisenhart, his home was sold at auction to another person, something that is perfectly legal under Colorado law for an HOA to do when an owner fails to pay. He has claimed in court he was never served and is fighting the service.

Other paperwork about the foreclosure was allegedly sent by mistake to his old postal box, something he hadn’t checked in “years.”

The HOA, their legal council and board members all promised to provide a statement, but did not return calls and emails for several weeks before this story went to air.

Eisenhart says his attorney bills and judgments against him forced him to file for bankruptcy. He nearly lost his business.

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“It has been a very, very tough test for me. I’m a small business here,” Eisenhart
said.

For now he’s being allowed to stay in his home, paying more than $2,000 a month to the courts until the case can go before a state appeals judge.

But the years of fighting and the financial toll now has Eisenhart wishing he would have just paid the $100 fine and moved on.

“Read the fine print read, your HOA bylaws, go through and make sure that you have the power and that the HOA does not. Make sure that they are working for you and not against you.”
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/02/02/home-hoa-fight-gypsum-chatfield-corners/

[pwd72s]

Pretty simple problem to avoid...don't buy if it's in a HOA.

[pmax]

Still amazed at how many are unaware of the pitfalls ... the RE industry has done a good job glossing over them.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Pretty simple problem to avoid...don't buy if it's in a HOA.

Or pay the HOA dues on time.

[Cajundaddy]

HOAs run full spectrum. My kid's condo has a very gentle HOA with low fees and minimal intrusion. We do business with a 5 star country club 55+ HOA where they control what color you can paint the house, what BBQ you can have within public view, which plants you can plant in your yard, and no cars can be parked on the street or driveway after 10pm.

Dems the rules so suck it up or move.

[astrochex]

Hmmm, topic title changed. Probably due to parfiness, imho.

[peppy]

You think a HOA sucks you should live in a town that decided to create a historic district. The town council voted and now our home is under control of the historic district committee that is appointed by the town council. It happened a few years back, but still pisses me off.

[A930Rocket]

I build in a neighborhood with crazy HOA members. As you mentioned, they control everything, from paint, shingles, fireplaces, landscape, driveways, etc. Don’t do it the way they like and and they fine you from the $20k deposit you put down.

Add in $9k annual dues.

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy

....We do business with a 5 star country club 55+ HOA where they control what color you can paint the house, what BBQ you can have within public view, which plants you can plant in your yard, and no cars can be parked on the street or driveway after 10pm.

Dems the rules so suck it up or move.

[A930Rocket]

We’ve been living in our house for 5 years now. Last year, we didn’t receive a POA fee notice. Life goes on and we didn’t realize it until we got served with a lien at the house 11 months later.

I called the POA management co and they say they no longer manage it. Call around and find out who’s managing it. Call them and ask why we didn’t get a notice, when you could deliver a lien. They had our address, email and phone number. The lady was clueless.

Paid the lien and sold the house. Closing in March.

[rattlsnak]

My last two house were both in HOA hoods and I have never had a problem with them. If anything, it;s been good... they have forced slacker neighbors to cut their grass, dont park so many cars in the street, etc. so I like them...so far..