Observation: Bring-A-Trailer vs eBay vs ...

[nvr2mny]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Yea, that's kind of why businesses sorta exist. They are not charities that exist to benefit you.

For “good” businesses to exist, the benefit has to be mutual. As happens quite frequently when they get too big (ie: successful) they lose sight of who made them that way to begin with and they start to believe the notion it was ‘them’. We’ve seen it happen time and time again.

[slow&rusty]

@nvr2mny - sorry to read and I feel your upset. Based on this, which other avenues are you going to use to sell the Jag and the 911s?

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by SiberianDVM

True, but they do have to provide a service that enough customers are willing to pay for.

They are. They have so many paying customers that they are turning away 75% of them. That's how god damned great their business model is.

They can't waste listings on idiot crack pipe owners who think their car is worth a trillion bucks.
That window space is better allocated on cars that actually will sell without a crack pipe reserve.
For every no reserve met car, that is another car that could have sold and generated revenue to pay salaries.

Business 101

[nota]

I have NOT seen any car requiring a trailer ie a unrestored car needing work on their site in a while
most look to be restored to show quality or at minimum drivers in very good condition

or the exact opposite of where they started as a site for people looking for old cars to restore

[widebody911]

Originally Posted by nota

I have NOT seen any car requiring a trailer ie a unrestored car needing work on their site in a while

It's no longer "bring a trailer" - now it's "bring a trust fund"

[nvr2mny]

Originally Posted by slow&rusty

@nvr2mny - sorry to read and I feel your upset. Based on this, which other avenues are you going to use to sell the Jag and the 911s?

I’ll be evaluating many sites, inc here. I’ll post links once listed. I’ve already had several pm’s from my posts here, the earlyS and Rennlist. Hopefully I’ll be able to move one or both P-cars on to the next caretaker w/o having to list at all. That is assuming my “ask” isn’t coming from a ‘crackpipe’

I know every seller thinks their cars are ‘special’ (ie: worth more than what’s out there) BUT I can guarantee you that these 2 Targa’s are WAY above what’s out there, or has been, for a LONG LONG time. That’s why I’m SO disenchanted with BaT.

I also have the advantage that I don’t have to sell either one of them. I have the same affliction as many here, I build (throw money) them out of desire and once done am looking for the next hole to pour money into.

[SiberianDVM]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

They are. They have so many paying customers that they are turning away 75% of them. That's how god damned great their business model is.

They can't waste listings on idiot crack pipe owners who think their car is worth a trillion bucks.
That window space is better allocated on cars that actually will sell without a crack pipe reserve.
For every no reserve met car, that is another car that could have sold and generated revenue to pay salaries.

Business 101

Not quite a trillion but yesterday a DB5 sold for near 3/4 million.

There are enough billionaires out there to keep me from playing anymore.

[nvr2mny]

[QUOTE=SiberianDVM;11023702]Not quite a trillion but yesterday a DB5 sold for near 3/4 million.

Remember, they max out the fee at 5k no matter the selling price. 5% of the sales price up to 5k on the buyer. The seller only pays 100.00 or almost 400 if you have their photographer come out.

I believe the real $ is in the data mining.

[Scott Douglas]

What amazes me are some of the cars that are listed 'No Reserve' and that sell for way more than I'd expect them to.
I think slow&rusty's car would have done well in a NR auction on BaT based on how other nice looking 928's have done. I totally understand the need for a reserve, but sometimes the car will speak for itself. His pictures speak volumes as to the work that he's put into it.
Well done sir.

And yes, it is disheartening that they've 'gone big'. It used to be a fun place to fantasize while looking.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

What amazes me are some of the cars that are listed 'No Reserve' and that sell for way more than I'd expect them to.
.

That's kind of the entire point of No Reserve for the last 5000 years of auctions.

[Kraftwerk]

Much preferred BAT when they would sell a wHaT's -iT !? with double-patina and mis-matched wheels...

[slow&rusty]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

What amazes me are some of the cars that are listed 'No Reserve' and that sell for way more than I'd expect them to.
I think slow&rusty's car would have done well in a NR auction on BaT based on how other nice looking 928's have done. I totally understand the need for a reserve, but sometimes the car will speak for itself. His pictures speak volumes as to the work that he's put into it.
Well done sir.

Thank-you for the kind words.

[widebody911]

Originally Posted by nvr2mny

Remember, they max out the fee at 5k no matter the selling price. 5% of the sales price up to 5k on the buyer.

It seems like a bit of an insult to have to pay an additional "buyer's premium" for the privilege of buying a car,

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

Much preferred BAT when they would sell a wHaT's -iT !? with double-patina and mis-matched wheels...

They never auctioned turd crap.
You're thinking of the BAT blog before the auction days

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by widebody911

It seems like a bit of an insult to have to pay an additional "buyer's premium" for the privilege of buying a car,

The website didn't build itself. BAT doesn't exist to help you for free. It exists to provide a service that covers costs of doing business.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by slow&rusty

Well good news, I just received a deposit on my 928. Didn't need BaT, didn't need Doug Demuro and got my full asking price.

The car is heading to Atlanta.

Congrats and well deserved!

[slow&rusty]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Congrats and well deserved!

Thank you my friend.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by widebody911

It's no longer "bring a trailer" - now it's "bring a trust fund"

Pretty much.

It's changed...in some ways better, other ways worse. The quality of the merchandise is generally pretty great but rarely are there any deals to be had.

[widebody911]

As a ecom nerd one thing I've noticed is a lot more external connections on the page that I have to whitelist for the site to work; this started happening in the past couple of days.

[speeder]

What does “whitelist” mean? Are those all websites that are tracking you when you browse BaT?

The internet is a creepy place.