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sc_rufctr 09-18-2020 07:28 AM

E-Bike anyone?
 
I'm thinking about converting my Trek pavement bike (hybrid bike) into an E-Bike with a mid mount kit.

Specifically this one: https://pirez.com.au/bbs01b-36v-250w-bafang-mid-drive-kit/

I've heard from several people how great E-Bikes are and as I'm getting older I want to get out there and have some fun.
I'm fit so I can ride a regular bike with no issues but the added fun factor of an E-Bikes is attractive and you can go further.

One big issue with Australia, like Europe we are limited to 250w only for the road. Anything above that and you would get an expensive ticket from the police and they'd confiscate the bike. I think you guys can go as high as 750w on the road... 750w sounds great but I'd be concerned about stressing my 15 year old bike, chain and components.

Anyway... Does anyone own an E-Bike? If you do please chime in.

LWJ 09-18-2020 07:56 AM

Wife rode one in Paris a few years ago. Couldn't stop talking about how great it was. Bought a second hand specialized turbo Vado for her. She LOVES it. Rides it everywhere.

john70t 09-18-2020 08:51 AM

In Japan once, I was huffing up the slope of a long underpass dip with a grade.
Should have walked it.
Some old man with his wife sitting on the handlebars caught up and passed by, laughing their asses off.
Awesome stuff.

Steve Viegas 09-18-2020 08:59 AM

I just put money into an Indigogo campaign for one. It is full suspension, 750W and they demonstrated it by riding it up stairs! I was sold.

It hasn't arrived yet, so I cannot comment on it yet.

I do believe the conversion is likely the smart way to go though. I believe with the way a conversion is set-up, the stress caused to the drivetrain by the motor will be minimal you shouldn't have to worry.

look 171 09-18-2020 09:01 AM

Two types. One is pedal assist the other is straight power to wheel without pedaling. I want the second.

look 171 09-18-2020 09:07 AM

What kind of bike is it? If mtb (steel would be best), it should be more robust then a typical road bike. Change your chain if bike is used often, once a year and make sure its lubed well. All bike chain stretch from usage. Brakes are always my concern. If you bike has disc brakes, that would be best.

vash 09-18-2020 09:10 AM

i want one!

but i'm not there yet. i still enjoy suffering a bit on my regular bikes.

i do think my wife would love it tho. and she can go with me.

sc_rufctr 09-18-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11030675)
Two types. One is pedal assist the other is straight power to wheel without pedaling. I want the second.

In Aus they have to be pedal assist by law.

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11030683)
What kind of bike is it? If mtb (steel would be best), it should be more robust then a typical road bike. Change your chain if bike is used often, once a year and make sure its lubed well. All bike chain stretch from usage. Brakes are always my concern. If you bike has disc brakes, that would be best.

This is the bike... It's basically a mountain bike frame setup for the road. I've got some disk brakes for it sitting in a box. I bought it about 15 years ago and it's been great.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1600445819.jpg

vash 09-18-2020 09:25 AM

i had an idea..to put pedal assist on a pedel kayak!! holy ****..i am on to something. to bad i can't invent ****..but ideas.

look 171 09-18-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11030701)
In Aus they have to be pedal assist by law.



This is the bike... It's basically a mountain bike frame setup for the road. I've got some disk brakes for it sitting in a box. I bought it about 15 years ago and it's been great.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1600445819.jpg

That will be just fine

look 171 09-18-2020 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11030711)
i had an idea..to put pedal assist on a pedel kayak!! holy ****..i am on to something. to bad i can't invent ****..but ideas.

Oh, come on you lazy ass.:D Part of going out is to get some much needed exercise. The trick is to enjoy the work not fight it.

We ran into these two guys that are over weight going up our sufferfest climbs. Its mt Baldy, not sure if you are familiar with it. Its 5000+' straight up. The hung with us for a few miles and just turn up the battery and blasted off. They started talking to us about how much more fun they had without having to break a sweat at the village. Bastards

dlockhart 09-18-2020 11:46 AM

https://www.ancheer.shop/collections/electric-bike

A offroad MC pal has one of these cheepy ancheer bikes and it has been pretty amazing. Durability is several years beyond expectations and there are plenty of hacks to hot-rod to the point where the desert racing mc friend was laughing about how unsafe it felt.

jcwade 09-18-2020 11:48 AM

I finally broke down and bought an e-bike after I got one for my wife and could no longer keep up with her.
It was a great move.
I can use throttle or pedal assist. Or, I can turn the assist off and it is all me.
The downside is the bike weighs about 50lbs so I rarely turn assist off completely.

I can go as far and hard as I want and the motor can help me home.

Brando 09-18-2020 11:51 AM

That's a pretty cool conversion kit. What kind of range/run time would it get?

sc_rufctr 09-18-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 11030932)
That's a pretty cool conversion kit. What kind of range/run time would it get?

I'll be using a 250w motor so with a 36v 16ah battery it will have at least 80 km (49.70 miles) of range but if I used the 750w motor it could be around 40 km (24.85 miles)

It also depends on what level of assist you use, how heavy you are and how much climbing you're be doing.

ckelly78z 09-18-2020 01:04 PM

I went with a front wheel 36V 500W unit https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ebikeling-Waterproof-e-Bike-Conversion-Kit-36V-500W-700C-Geared-Front-Rear/164290662247?hash=item26407c8f67:g:VqUAAOSw7G1fDi0 2 on my 29" mountain Bike, and love it.

It has 5 speeds, and pedal assist, and/or throttle, and will run about 26 mph electric alone, or 30+ while pedaling. I have a smaller bottle cage battery that still gives me a 25 mile range, and longer if pedaling. https://www.ebay.com/itm/36V-7AH-Ebike-Battery-Li-ion-For-250W-350W-500W-Electric-Bicycle-Bottle-with-USB/353154618486?hash=item5239a7d476:g:-4AAAOSwr2tfIogv.

Brando 09-18-2020 01:12 PM

I live in a very "hilly" town. Lots of 2-5% grades all around - I would probably be using the electric assist quite a bit. Coasting down-hill, not so much. That is one thing I miss about living in Irvine - flat for miles in every direction so I could ride longer distances.

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11030973)
I'll be using a 250w motor so with a 36v 16ah battery it will have at least 80 km (49.70 miles) of range but if I used the 750w motor it could be around 40 km (24.85 miles)

It also depends on what level of assist you use, how heavy you are and how much climbing you're be doing.


cstreit 09-18-2020 01:23 PM

Pony up and get a Sur-Ron. :)

Ziggythecat 09-18-2020 02:45 PM

I have a similar bike, a Trek Hybrid with skinny tires and upright handlebars.
I looked at all the various conversion options, with front or rear hub.

At the end of the day, a decent conversion kit ran about 600 or more
So, I bought one of these, for 1199...
I could not see the point of screwing up a good bike.
It’s nimble, and very lightweight for an E Bike @ 37 lbs, with the battery, and has more than decent components

Propella.com
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1600465497.jpg

Ziggythecat 09-18-2020 02:46 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1600465608.jpg


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