NASCAR with turns and wipers

[pwd72s]

Just because they turn left on ovals, don't kid yourself, those "good ol' boys" are also top dog wheel men.

That said, yes...I'd like to see them do more road courses.

Remembering when NASCAR vintage cars came to the historics at Portland...a Porsche friend was laughing at the beasts...until I showed him the lap times they were turning.

(edit) One fun moment was when this same friend & I were in the Nascar area....one of the drivers asked us who was it in the Blue Porsche (pronounced correctly) that just flew around the course, then admitted to copying the lines taken. I just said: "That's Monte Shelton. He's probably done more fast laps around here than anybody."

[VFR750]

I think the issue it is very hard for a camera to capture how hard any driver is working to get it to go as fast as it can.

I can see the drift and small rotations happening on the ovals. I can appreciate the skill needed to do that for 3 hours in a 130-140F inferno.

I also think F1 is similarly boring to the 1.5 ovals. Too few cars strung out over a typical layout that has a 1st gear turn after a 200+mph straight. The so called passing zone can’t be used since the time spent is too small for most to hustle the car and make up time.

The rain slowed the cars enough where good driving was evident. And sliding was big motions easily captured by tv cameras.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by arcsine

In my opinion, racing while only turning one direction does not demonstrate driving skill beyond knowing how to control a car at high speed. It is kinda like bowling. Pins dont move, ball is the same, so as long as you can do the same motion and hit specific lane targets, you can be successful

However turning in both directions and in non-ideal conditions leads to finding out who can actually drive. Cannot say it will help NASCAR but it cannot hurt either.

Just a different kind of racing. In any racing including NASCAR, the conditions are constantly changing, temps, track temps, fuel load, tire condition, traffic etc....

Imagine WRC, no qualifying laps, no real idea about the "course" other than "I ran it a year ago. Blind corners, wildly varied conditions, and they have to try to get as close as they can to 10/10s while keeping enough in reserve to correct if the conditions have changed and/or the course notes aren't exactly what they were expecting.

But, that doesn't mean that they are better drivers than F1 drivers or NASCAR drivers or IMSA prototype drivers.

They are all trying to be the fastest for whatever their conditions are. And depending upon the conditions, they probably drive close to or farther from the absolute limits of the vehicle, course and themselves.

[Scott Douglas]

I was disappointed that the rain had stopped by the time I turned it on.
The Xfinity race the night before was fun to watch since it rained for most all of it.

[JackDidley]

Originally Posted by VFR750

The Roval has turned out to be an epic race track. This past weekend was awesome.

The xfinity race in the rain was Great. Who thought the water spray on the high banks made the cars look faster?

A welcomed addition, with the equally welcomed dropping of a 1.5 mile track. The 1.5 milers are so boring because they are a perfect balance of horsepower and aero. Clean air has too much influence on grip. And being a little bit down on power really shows in every corner exit. Roundy-round they go.

I tried the Roval in a Cup car in iRacing. It is very challenging in the dry.

I agree with the above quote, except this. (The xfinity race in the rain was Great.) I think they ran as many yellow laps as green. Way too much crashing and not enough racing. The Cup race was very good.