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gregpark 01-08-2021 10:57 AM

I've hand cut dove tails before but nothing like that. That's crazy! I guess old honest Abe developed more complicated jointery skills after this mallet. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610132093.jpg

masraum 01-08-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11172459)
I've hand cut dove tails before but nothing like that. That's crazy! I guess old honest Abe developed more complicated jointery skills after this mallet.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610132093.jpg

That's a heck of a thing. It looks like something you'd use to battle zombies.

gregpark 01-08-2021 12:42 PM

I believe it's the oldest known artifact attributed to Lincoln, still owned by the family he supposedly gave it to and they think it's worth a zillion bucks

masraum 01-08-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11172687)
I believe it's the oldest known artifact attributed to Lincoln, still owned by the family he supposedly gave it to and they think it's worth a zillion bucks

Pretty cool, and undoubtedly worth some money, but lots of folks seem to over-value what they've got whether it's Lincoln's woodworking mallet or a used 1987 Chrysler Lebaron full of rust, dents, bad paint and a horrible interior.

rwest 01-08-2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11172967)
Pretty cool, and undoubtedly worth some money, but lots of folks seem to over-value what they've got whether it's Lincoln's woodworking mallet or a used 1987 Chrysler Lebaron full of rust, dents, bad paint and a horrible interior.

Yea, but what if it’s Abe Lincoln’s Lebaron?

devodave 01-08-2021 08:27 PM

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dad911 01-09-2021 05:26 AM

I used to own 'John Oates Porsche'

Back to woodworking, can anyone recommend a brand of pouring epoxy? The reviews on Amazon are all over the place.

masraum 01-17-2021 03:38 PM

Wow, Japanese planing competition. I've always loved looking at Japanese woodworking and joints that they create.
In some of these it looks like they've created material to make lady's stocking.
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traditional shrine/temple carpentry
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look 171 01-17-2021 05:05 PM

I need to get you in the woodworking / furniture/ machinery show at Vegas when things go back to normal. Ist the SEMA of woodworking/ construction world.

MBAtarga 01-17-2021 07:34 PM

^+1
The IWF is held alternating years here in Atlanta. It was scheduled hear for August - and was a go until only about 3 weeks prior and they pulled the plug. I have attended every event here since about 1998 or so.

look 171 01-17-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 11186624)
^+1
The IWF is held alternating years here in Atlanta. It was scheduled hear for August - and was a go until only about 3 weeks prior and they pulled the plug. I have attended every event here since about 1998 or so.

They use to be here in Anaheim, which is about 45 min away, back in the mid to late 80s when I was a teenager. I made up a company name and was able to get in that way for all those years. They moved to eventually moved to Vegas like every conventions. I sign up to go every few years, or when possible. Its fun to just get away to see all the latest and greatest but after a few times, they are all the same.

Are you also in the business?

masraum 01-18-2021 08:54 AM

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Something a little different, but still impressive
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MBAtarga 01-18-2021 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11186644)
They use to be here in Anaheim, which is about 45 min away, back in the mid to late 80s when I was a teenager. I made up a company name and was able to get in that way for all those years. They moved to eventually moved to Vegas like every conventions. I sign up to go every few years, or when possible. Its fun to just get away to see all the latest and greatest but after a few times, they are all the same.

Are you also in the business?



Mainly a hobbyist but have been tinkering for over 35 years now. I built a 2300 sq ft shop on our property to house my equipment.


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masraum 02-04-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 11187724)
Mainly a hobbyist but have been tinkering for over 35 years now. I built a 2300 sq ft shop on our property to house my equipment.


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Very nice.

I'm still trying to get everything out to our new place and start working on getting my tools ready and making the shop useful. Too much honey-do stuff so far.

I did get some of my old tools out of storage and moved out to the shop. In addition to what Look171 gave me (router and shoulder/rabbet), I also have a Stanley block plane (apparently, one that's not terribly desirable) and a Stanley "Handyman" smoothing plane (also, not desirable) and a handful of old Stanley chisels that are in dire need of attention. I've got a diamond plate with 2 grits and a cheap Chinese honing guide so I can get the planes and chisels sharp. I'm sure that once I get the planes tuned up, they'll work even though the two that I had aren't the most desirable models. I haven't picked up many of the power tools yet.

I have some old "barn wood" (some is literally from an old barn and some is from a fence) that I plane to turn into a ramp for our dachshund to get up and down from the porch. I also plan to take some of that wood to build a compost heap. There's some wood laying around that I'm going to use to build a couple/few saw horses. Jonathan Katz-Moses built some that were interesting. They seem sturdy and they stack. I may build those. Then Chris Schwarz had what he called a "sawbench" at the end of his book an workbenches that was interesting. It's really short (the distance from the ground to the bottom of your kneecap, so probably ~18").
sawbench
https://www.lumberjocks.com/assets/p...cts/301811.jpg

saw horses
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1lsSQq7x0lk/maxresdefault.jpg

masraum 02-13-2021 06:35 PM

Why do I feel like I really need to build this table?

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look 171 02-13-2021 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11223770)
Why do I feel like I really need to build this table?

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Where's the table?

javadog 02-14-2021 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11223770)
Why do I feel like I really need to build this table?

Dunno, there must be something wrong with you. The rest of us just want to bang that chick sitting next to it.

KFC911 02-14-2021 03:57 AM

I had to enable Java BS to see.... and it was worth it :)!

masraum 02-26-2021 08:33 AM

Here's a great video that I stumbled across. Milt/Zeke, this is great!
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masraum 02-26-2021 08:43 AM

I've been frustrated, I haven't been able to get started on my shop, workbench build or even sharpening my planes/chisels. Between honey-do stuff (that's not yet complete), cold weather, fixing burst plumbing (this weekend), moving to the property (next week) and then our son getting married on the property the week after, I haven't even started working on the stuff that I want to do. Hopefully, in about 3 weeks I'll be able to start.

I don't know why, but I want a jointers or jack (#7 or #6) plane. I'm sure that I don't need one, but I want one. I suspect it's going to be a pain to find a decent metal one for a reasonable price (for something that I don't really need) so I've been thinking I can probably find an inexpensive old wooden plane. Then, how hard could it be to "tune-up?"

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look 171 02-26-2021 10:52 AM

for a little more money, I buy a jointer unless you want the satisfy of wood shavings. Its a ton of fun.

Out here, there are a ton of these thing used. I look for it on Craigslist in TX and found little for sale. Maybe people don't use craigslist anymore? I don't have facebook, an I know there's a huge for sale section there?

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/tls/d/lancaster-jointer/7282445095.html

Take a bit of truing up but they are simple tools and will last a long time.

masraum 02-26-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11240688)
for a little more money, I buy a jointer unless you want the satisfy of wood shavings. Its a ton of fun.

Out here, there are a ton of these thing used. I look for it on Craigslist in TX and found little for sale. Maybe people don't use craigslist anymore? I don't have facebook, an I know there's a huge for sale section there?

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/tls/d/lancaster-jointer/7282445095.html

Take a bit of truing up but they are simple tools and will last a long time.

$120, wow, that's crazy.

Zeke 02-26-2021 11:19 AM

Yeah, some really good hand planes can cost 120. I think I mentioned a hand held power plane here somewhere. Most nae brand manufacturers have one. My Makita came with its own stand making it a 3 1/4" jointer. The bed is about a foot, so doing long stock is not easy without some featherboards, ect. But great all around tool.

I have a whole collection of hand planes all the way out to a No. 7 (the big boy). I use a 4 1/2 mostly, but if I don't really need to use a hand plane, I avoid them. Like Jeff says, it's for the satisfaction of a zen kind of thing. It's not how you get a lot of work done in a time frame/

Steve, thanks for the link/bump!

masraum 02-26-2021 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11240731)
Yeah, some really good hand planes can cost 120. I think I mentioned a hand held power plane here somewhere. Most nae brand manufacturers have one. My Makita came with its own stand making it a 3 1/4" jointer. The bed is about a foot, so doing long stock is not easy without some featherboards, ect. But great all around tool.

Yes, you absolutely did mention the handheld power plane earlier in this thread, and I haven't forgotten. I've seen old planes advertised online for anywhere from $20 up to 200, and I think some can end up even more expensive.
Quote:

I have a whole collection of hand planes all the way out to a No. 7 (the big boy). I use a 4 1/2 mostly, but if I don't really need to use a hand plane, I avoid them. Like Jeff says, it's for the satisfaction of a zen kind of thing. It's not how you get a lot of work done in a time frame/
Right, and that's mostly my desire. I'm sure that would occasionally use them. It would be a combination of a zen thing and a connection to the past and how things were done.

I've got an old Stanley Handyman plane that was my grandfathers. Those are apparently very unloved, but it works, and there's the sentimental connection. I've also got a block plane that I think may have been in our previous home when we moved in. Then Look171 sent me a rabbet/shoulder plane and a router plane which I'm very excited about. I'd like to round out my collection with a long fella #6 or 7 and eventually a 4.5 (maybe then convert the handyman into a scrub plane).


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Steve, thanks for the link/bump!
Absolutely. I'm keeping up with your videos and learning stuff at the same time. I'm glad that you've started making them again. Your video editing is getting better too.

1990C4S 02-26-2021 12:03 PM

I'll just drop this link with no comment... :)

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/planes

masraum 02-26-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11240791)
I'll just drop this link with no comment... :)

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/planes

Right, Veritas is very proud of their planes. I'd love to just go crazy with the credit card, but it's not going to happen.

I'd be perfectly happy to get something old and crusty, but solid and complete and then clean, sharpen, true it up.

masraum 02-26-2021 01:33 PM

This is interesting on FB, but obviously, not the whole story.

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Lots of vintage woodworking hand pland and hand tool. Lots of stuff drawknifes, spokeshave, chisels, hand drills. I have stanley no.5s a no.06 ohio tool plane. No.7 stanleys a no.8 stanley. Scrub plane, bull nose plane. Also lots of vintage craftsman and Dunlap 25ea. Interested in anything ill let you know a price.
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1614374354.jpg
Clearly, this guy has "$25" listed, and that's for the junk.

At least this one seems realistic.

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have four Stanley hand planes for sale, which all are in good condition. They would make great working planes or just add to a collection. These have been stored inside in my handtools cabinet and haven't been used by me (I have others I use in my shop).

I know the values of each plane but will work out a deal for Christmas. I can send you more pictures or you can come by and see. I do have a few more planes that I may add for sale.

Up for sale is:
- Stanley No. 6 type 8 $100

- Stanley Bailey No. 5 type 11 $90

- Stanley Bailey No. 5 1/4 $100

- Stanley Bailey No. 4 type 17 (with
steel adjuster nut) $70
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1614374490.jpg


I did a search for "jointer" and didn't find anything on FB. When I checked CL, I found a couple of old Craftsman parts that were $250 and 325. They looked like they were 50 years old.

masraum 02-26-2021 01:40 PM

Later this year, once we get in and get some stuff fixed, and get done with kids weddings and house purchases and the like, and the missus sees that I'm actually producing, I'll probably have more time and leeway to start shopping for sale listings.

masraum 02-26-2021 01:50 PM

And I want a brace too. My grandparents gave me one when I was about 6 or 7. No idea where it is, so probably gone.

look 171 02-26-2021 02:06 PM

Well, if you ask , maybe you shall receive.

I have a stupid egg beater drill somewhere? I saw it long ago brought in from one of the old guy that used to work for me. Not sure we have it, but as far as I remember, we needed to drill a hole in a very narrow space where a regular drill wouldn't fit. At that time, they didn't have all the fancy drill attachments as least I am not aware of any? Brace you say, and all along I thought you were only interested in planes and scrapers? I bought one somewhere long ago when I crazy about old woodworking tools. Good excuse for me to clean house and look for them. Hang tight, Steve, it may be a few months?

Yankee screwdriver?

They would look great in someone else's showcase then inside the dusty old boxes on top of my shelves

masraum 02-26-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11241032)
Well, if you ask , maybe you shall receive.

I have a stupid egg beater drill somewhere? I saw it long ago brought in from one of the old guy that used to work for me. Not sure we have it, but as far as I remember, we needed to drill a hole in a very narrow space where a regular drill wouldn't fit. At that time, they didn't have all the fancy drill attachments as least I am not aware of any? Brace you say, and all along I thought you were only interested in planes and scrapers? I bought one somewhere long ago when I crazy about old woodworking tools. Good excuse for me to clean house and look for them. Hang tight, Steve, it may be a few months?

Yankee screwdriver?

They would look great in someone else's showcase then inside the dusty old boxes on top of my shelves

I really wasn't whining about wanting stuff to get free stuff, I swear!

If at any point in the future, you find them and are really jonesing for a trip to the post office, I won't tell you "no," but you've already been more than generous. If/when you are ready, let me know. Our address is changing to the new property next week.

I'd never heard of or seen a "yankee screwdriver" before about 2 weeks ago when I read this scan of an article from "The Woodworker" from May 1916.

https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/screws-and-screwdrivers.pdf

look 171 02-26-2021 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11241105)
I really wasn't whining about wanting stuff to get free stuff, I swear!

If at any point in the future, you find them and are really jonesing for a trip to the post office, I won't tell you "no," but you've already been more than generous. If/when you are ready, let me know. Our address is changing to the new property next week.

I'd never heard of or seen a "yankee screwdriver" before about 2 weeks ago when I read this scan of an article from "The Woodworker" from May 1916.

https://blog.lostartpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/screws-and-screwdrivers.pdf

I am jsut funning wit ya about the whining:D

Its better if you put them to good use then my wishing to have time to build a showcase to house my old hand tools. I am done with them. A change of heart is a load off just knowing I don't have to build a showcase anymore. Give me a couple months, I will dig em out for ya

It is my pleasure to send them to you even though I have to go to the post office. There are plenty of them here BTW, so its no big deal. Give me your new address.

Hey thanks for the peppers. They are great.

1990C4S 02-27-2021 06:23 AM

Years ago I used an eggbeater drill pretty regularly for plaster, small holes. Once the battery drills arrived I retired the eggbeater.

masraum 02-27-2021 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11241697)
Years ago I used an eggbeater drill pretty regularly for plaster, small holes. Once the battery drills arrived I retired the eggbeater.

Wow.

I hear that a brace will be a good way to drill dog holes in a work bench.

javadog 02-27-2021 07:26 AM

A zillion years ago, when I was a kid, I used a brace.

Can't think of ANY good reason to use one today. If you want a decent hole, that's not what to use to make it.

I tend to leave crap like that to the YouTube guys.

masraum 02-27-2021 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11241768)
A zillion years ago, when I was a kid, I used a brace.

Can't think of ANY good reason to use one today. If you want a decent hole, that's not what to use to make it.

I tend to leave crap like that to the YouTube guys.

Where's the fun in that!

look 171 02-27-2021 11:40 AM

A brace drills a rough hole. It rips up the wood fibers upon entry but the Utube guys (like Java said) will make it otherwise. I will send you a couple drills bit for it. I bought the best example from the old tool man years ago, and its in really great shape. I believe it was made in the 50s.

Take an electric drill with a Multi Spur bit. It cuts a super clean hole.

look 171 02-27-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11241788)
Where's the fun in that!

The fun is you will get to swear loudly even in the present of women and children because you just fook up a wonderful piece of nicely glued up work bench while they cover their mouth laughing as they walk away. Muhahahahah

masraum 02-27-2021 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11242029)
A brace drills a rough hole. It rips up the wood fibers upon entry but the Utube guys (like Java said) will make it otherwise. I will send you a couple drills bit for it. I bought the best example from the old tool man years ago, and its in really great shape. I believe it was made in the 50s.

Take an electric drill with a Multi Spur bit. It cuts a super clean hole.

I do have a 5/8" makita corded drill. I made the mistake once of thinking that like other drills that I'd had, I'd hold the chuck and bump the drill to tighten the chuck. Yeah, this is a bit more powerful than your average 3/8" drill. I ended up melting the skin on a few of my fingers.

Interesting, I was aware of Forstner bits, but not multi spur bits. I guess the trick would be to make sure that I didn't wedge the bit in the hole and then break my wrist with the drill.

look 171 02-28-2021 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11242535)
I do have a 5/8" makita corded drill. I made the mistake once of thinking that like other drills that I'd had, I'd hold the chuck and bump the drill to tighten the chuck. Yeah, this is a bit more powerful than your average 3/8" drill. I ended up melting the skin on a few of my fingers.

Interesting, I was aware of Forstner bits, but not multi spur bits. I guess the trick would be to make sure that I didn't wedge the bit in the hole and then break my wrist with the drill.

No need to go nuclear. 5/8"? Man, that's one big chuck. Any 3/8 or 1/2 drill will do the trick. Put it on slow or low, it will cut its way through cleanly. Do get a new bit for that because this holes for the bench dog will be with you for long time. I think the bench dog I sent you is 3/4 dia. if you are using that?

Forstner bit will take until tomorrow. They are slow and dulls easily.


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