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As to disclosing the fact that a murder occurred in a house-hot enough topic that it gets discussed in real estate classes and law schools. States are all over the place as to whether it is material or not. Pennsylvania says its not material. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/milliken-v-jacono-home-seller-not-requ-28469/ |
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I would agree a murder is not a "material defect" but in some places it must be disclosed. I would also think the collapse of the old building, deaths subsequent demolition is not a "material defect" on the new building. |
The pool is in and they are still pumping. So you can now see how this pool is very similar to the garage of the condo. If the water table rose during the curing period of the concrete 9the green phase) and they did not relive the pressure the concrete probably cracked. The tide rises and recedes two times per day, add a storm and the water table rises. As the concrete cures it gains more and more PSI until it reaches full cure.
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Not sure how closely the water table level matches the tides...
But that pool looks only 3-4 feet deep... Not sure if there is a deep end Say the tide and water table elevation match inch for inch, the still would be only be a small amount of horizontal pressure on the walls...... Then there is buoyancy... you could float that pool right out of the ground.. The contactor should partially fill the pool to make horizontal pressure and bouyancy close to zero... |
I’ve always read concrete cures 90% in 28 days.
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The walls are not the issue, the floor is the issue especially at this stage where the concrete is still green. If they did not have the pumps running to keep the pressure down the pool would do exactly as you say, it would try and float. The upward pressure would crack the pool floor. When the pool is ready to be filled they will fill it equalizing or exceeding the pressure then remove the pumps. |
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Currently have a pool being finished, waiting for plaster this week. Our builder popped 3-4" holes in the floor at the corners to deal with hydrostatic pressure. Basically any water will flow into the pool relieving pressure and somewhat equalizing pressure. Obviously when they plaster they will close the holes first. |
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This thread has jumped the condo.....:rolleyes:
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was a good story in the miami paper about the data called house of cards
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A floating pool cost a family friend his home and his marriage.
He was in the trades and decided to diy his own concrete pool, hiring friends to help, dog, form, plumb and wire, reinforce, etc. The pool was poured right before hurricane Irene and he didn’t know he should partially fill it as soon as it cured. The pool floated, had to be busted up and thrown away. In the emotional fallout of all of that, he and his wife divorced. |
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OT: My cousin, who lives a little west on New Orleans, took these of his neighbor's pool. it sat flush with the pool deck for many years. Then hurricane Isaac came through. Their houses survived fairly well, but the pool filled with mud. The owner waited - but not long enough - and began to pump out the mud. Then it was a total loss.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/victims-of-surfside-condo-collapse-reach-997-million-settlement/ar-AAXatzG?ocid=winp2sv1plus&cvid=0634fb49bfab4487a37 c7966dde76d2c
Victims of the 2021 condo tower collapse in Surfside, Fla., have reached a proposed $997 million settlement to resolve wrongful death claims against defendants sued over the building’s failure. The payout, announced in a court hearing Wednesday, would settle claims brought by family members of the 98 victims of the collapse of Champlain Towers South last June. Defendants in the case included the building’s insurers, developers of a neighboring condo building, an engineering firm that warned of the tower’s structural issues before its collapse and others. The settlement is much higher than most lawyers initially expected. The initial pool of insurance money to settle both claims for victims who lost their homes and those who lost family members was $50 million. |
So the engineering firm that warned of the issue was found liable? (at least partially)
How is that? |
Look at the Plaintiffs. That is all.
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I was in an association like that. They deferred maintenance and actually hid engineering reports to keep the HOA fees artificially low.
Every board member that delayed or voted against repairs has blood on their hands, and should lose their equity. Instead, the payouts are approximately 6 million per unit. Quite a windfall for a POS property. |
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This is a settlement no one was actually found liable. All the insurance companies settled the suit. |
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Did everyone here get their claim in? Lots of doozies.
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