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				I really like it. I dont love the wheels or the ipad stuck to the dash. I still prefer the Cayman/Boxer 4.0 but I would consider buying one of these with a manual....every time one of the videos mentioned that this is Lotus' last petrol engine..i get a little depressed. hard to believe i lived long enough to see real cars disappear 
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			Lotus...if taller than 5' 10", forget about it... 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			(edit) Otherwise? Beautiful eye candy. 
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			Two things, the gimmicky door handles and they could have integrated that screen much better.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i dont mind the door handles.  The 992 has gimmicky handles as well that people dont like.  I think if they work and wont become a problem, then im ok with them.   
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Porsche continues to integrate electronic screens better than anyone in my opinion 
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			Everything about it seems pretty cool, esp. the manual. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Even the price seems reasonable. I think it looks great, and to me looks like possibly the best and most exciting sports car to come out in at least 20 years. (But, alas I guess I’m too old for that now, after 40 years of sports cars it’s not something I’d want to drive around regularly.)  | 
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			The Pacifica minivan does well also. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			^^^ im not a minivan guy but that looks like a nice road trip vehicle. I like the  open area near the center console...old school
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			They are a great road trip with the family vehicle.  the screen is well integrated and easy to reach and responsive.  I dislike all the screens that look like an afterthought.  Not many do it right any more. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			The Cayman, 911 and Cayenne all do it well. 
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			For the Lotus, wheels are an easy change.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I just Shmee'd my pants that thing is Awesome!
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			if I could get my 6-3 body in it...I would seriously consider. a handsome looking car for sure.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Lotus always seems to have kit car build quality
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I drove the Ferrari F8 press car last year, and they got it right with not placing massive screens. ![]() It makes a difference in the driver's seat, makes it more a driver's car, and less a computer game. I'll use my computer for computer games, and my car for driving. Still, it is a fraction of the price of the Ferrari, and comes in a manual. I wonder how long the production run will be. Last edited by Tervuren; 07-07-2021 at 04:04 PM..  | 
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			Harry of Harry’s Garage has a vid of the launch.  near the end he has a closer (but short) look at a manual car
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Looks like a Ferrari clone.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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this is last horse wagon ..i get a little depressed.  hard to believe i lived long enough to see real horse wagons disappear
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 I like my 2007 Cayman for it's ability to do it all, track, daily, travel, and be elegant and refined when it has to... It doesn't feel like a glorified kit car, like a Lotus of the same vintage does 
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