Vaccines are moving the needle...

[Steve Carlton]

How about a link to any credible information supporting (Tobra’s) false contentions? Prediction- nothing.

[speeder]

Trump just got booed at one of his rallies for telling the crowd to get vaccinated. In Alabama or somewhere in the Deep South.

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

How about a link to any credible information supporting (Tobra’s) false contentions? Prediction- nothing.

I’d settle for a link that wouldn’t infect my computer with malware.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I heard someone is trying to figure out how to create a class action lawsuit against the unvaccinated. Obviously pretty tricky and impossible to identify who isn't except by subtraction, but HIPAA, so probably isn't going to go very far.

[thor66]

full auth. might move a few more people to get vaxed

as long as they ignore the magnetic foot in mouth and like ilk

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

please provide your medical degree or doctorate in infectious disease studies so we all can understand the level of competence in your answers. Or just show us the receipt from your latest Holiday Inn Express stay.

He’s a Podiatrist. It’s like asking the guy in the corner that tints windows and slings stereos to build a 4 cam motor. Sure he technically “works on cars” but he won’t have a clue what need done.

[Rtrorkt]

I still carry a bit of a scar from my small pox poke when I was in grade school and that's going on 60 years ago. Thinking these folks don't take penicillin, aspirin or other medicines that came from solid science research. If we had acted like these selfish idiots are acting now in the day, small pox, polio and other diseases would still be with us. Willful ignorance is the virus to defeat.

[Rtrorkt]

Here is a helpful link to the livestock pharmacy being touted by Fox news. https://www.tractorsupplyrx.com/livestock-farm-c-153.html Public service

[Rtrorkt]

sorry, here is the actual link to the drug. Note it is for swine. https://www.tractorsupplyrx.com/search.aspx?SearchTerm=ivermectin Seems appropriate

[Skillet83]

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/double-blind-ivermectin-study-reveals-covid-19-patients-recover-more-quickly-have-reduce

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/new-study-links-ivermectin-large-reductions-covid-19-deaths

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i-dont-know-bigger-story-world-right-now-ivermectin-nytimes-best-selling-author

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ivermectin-can-drug-be-right-wing

I will work with the livestock pharmacy. All the cowboys and ranchers I run with say Ivermectin is the way. None of them getting sick. I have had the dreaded virus twice, was nothing. A little Ivermectin twice a week along with some C, D3, Quercetin and Zinc.


Now granted, these folks do not graze on doughnuts and mountain dew for breakfast. Generally in shape, not the Lizzo types. If you are fat, unhealthy, I might consider some intervention. If you have ever pushed 200 calfs through a chute, you might be in kinda good shape. Like playing 2 football games in 2 hours. Snowflakes need not apply.

Read the info., it is out there is you look. Why the draconian push to stick this chit in your arm? Why are they boo hooing Ivermectin, suppressing it? Read the links above. Why does my family have no problem with C19? This chit has turned political. When Trump touted the vaxxine Kamala said she would never take it. Why is that scrubbed from YT? Everyone is getting played here. Everyone is picking sides. They are suppressing the data on the deaths from the jab, the injuries. Go ahead, your choice. Just do not force me. My body, my choice. The golden mantra of the left for abortions. What a F'ing bunch of hypocrites.

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by thor66

full auth. might move a few more people to get vaxed

as long as they ignore the magnetic foot in mouth and like ilk

For many, this would involve choking on the biggest pill of all...their pride.

[cabmandone]

I know I often go to a rancher for medical advice. I mean... who doesn't? I was telling my wife just the other day that we should bring our kids down the road to the guy with a lot full of cattle. I'm sure he knows all the best treatments for kids. I mean... look at all those calves he has.

[pavulon]

Farriers have the real "deets".

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by Skillet83

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/double-blind-ivermectin-study-reveals-covid-19-patients-recover-more-quickly-have-reduce

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/new-study-links-ivermectin-large-reductions-covid-19-deaths

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i-dont-know-bigger-story-world-right-now-ivermectin-nytimes-best-selling-author

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ivermectin-can-drug-be-right-wing

I will work with the livestock pharmacy. All the cowboys and ranchers I run with say Ivermectin is the way. None of them getting sick. I have had the dreaded virus twice, was nothing. A little Ivermectin twice a week along with some C, D3, Quercetin and Zinc.


Now granted, these folks do not graze on doughnuts and mountain dew for breakfast. Generally in shape, not the Lizzo types. If you are fat, unhealthy, I might consider some intervention. If you have ever pushed 200 calfs through a chute, you might be in kinda good shape. Like playing 2 football games in 2 hours. Snowflakes need not apply.

Read the info., it is out there is you look. Why the draconian push to stick this chit in your arm? Why are they boo hooing Ivermectin, suppressing it? Read the links above. Why does my family have no problem with C19? This chit has turned political. When Trump touted the vaxxine Kamala said she would never take it. Why is that scrubbed from YT? Everyone is getting played here. Everyone is picking sides. They are suppressing the data on the deaths from the jab, the injuries. Go ahead, your choice. Just do not force me. My body, my choice. The golden mantra of the left for abortions. What a F'ing bunch of hypocrites.

The studies have serious flaws. Stop listening to zero hedge. Wait for the quality UK trial to finish up before you claim Ivermectin is a world beater.

[Rtrorkt]

So I guess I have it now. You’d rather self medicate (putting stuff in your body) designed for swine rather than a vaccine designed specifically for humans. But because a factless, right wing blogger (and Fox) figured this out by using what, witchcraft? Ouija board? Divining rod? You will trust that because why?

I’m all for personal freedoms but I’m also for being a responsible member of society. Just wear a scarlet letter on your forehead so I can stay away.

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

For those of you with these strong opinions, could you post your medical license or state your position at a research institute that is working on viruses?

No, I can’t.

But instead of a medical license I have a birth certificate that authorizes me to put or not put anything I choose into my body and it hasn’t expired.

Is that good enough?

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

No, I can’t.

But instead of a medical license I have a birth certificate that authorizes me to put or not put anything I choose into my body and it hasn’t expired.

Is that good enough?

No it’s not. That’s the whole point in all of this. Getting vaccinated and wearing a mask are what we need to do as responsible citizens to keep other people from getting sick and dying. The only way to stop this is by all of us doing your part.

Your body your choice is fine when that choice doesn’t affect others, but in this case it very much affects the rest of society. You want to stop talking about covid like we don’t talk about small pox, polio, etc? Get the shot. You want it to be a fairly minor issue like the flu every year, get the shot.

You want to stop putting healthcare workers lives at risk? Stop making them treat patients on gurneys in parking garages? Stop seeing people die while waiting for care in an overfull hospital?


GET THE ****ING SHOT.

[Rtrorkt]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

No it’s not. That’s the whole point in all of this. Getting vaccinated and wearing a mask are what we need to do as responsible citizens to keep other people from getting sick and dying. The only way to stop this is by all of us doing your part.

Your body your choice is fine when that choice doesn’t affect others, but in this case it very much affects the rest of society. You want to stop talking about covid like we don’t talk about small pox, polio, etc? Get the shot. You want it to be a fairly minor issue like the flu every year, get the shot.

You want to stop putting healthcare workers lives at risk? Stop making them treat patients on gurneys in parking garages? Stop seeing people die while waiting for care in an overfull hospital?


GET THE ****ING SHOT.

+1. What he said. You are just a selfish individual. No vax, no mask. Stay home. Don’t infect the rest of us.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

But instead of a medical license I have a birth certificate that authorizes me to put or not put anything I choose into my body and it hasn’t expired.

I have some questions for you.

- You claim your right to not get vaccinated. What ill effects are you looking to avoid?
- Do you think your fellow citizens have any rights, like to not be infected by you or by someone else that got COVID from you?
- Do you see any benefits to being vaccinated?

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by Tobra

If only we could count on the FDA and CDC

How come you can't count on them? Do you think you speak for everybody when you say "we"? I saw them as being partially corrupted in the last year of the previous administration, but no longer under threat now.

Originally Posted by Tobra

I don't think this has ever been true about any vaccine.

How about sticking to facts, as it relates to COVID? Do you have any credible evidence that natural immunity is superior to vaccine immunity?

Originally Posted by Tobra

You would get a shot that has zero effectiveness but greater than zero risk? Interesting.

Please cite credible evidence that the vaccine has zero effectiveness. I'm in stunned amazement here.

Originally Posted by Tobra

No, we were not.

We were not on the way out of this pandemic prior to Delta? Have you seen the charts? What evidence do you have of this?

Originally Posted by Tobra

No, the cure is not the vaccine, and there was never a chance it could have been

Do you see a cure? What do you see?