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Caster said, don't bother spending the extra cash on the BFGoodrich , Comp tires,
you don't have the talent for good tires.

Hard to argue with that.

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I had Coopers on my 85 Carrera cab. They were fine.
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The answer was a Firestone tire that is actually a Bridgestone, apparently they have merged. Can’t remember the model but it’s fantastic and very affordable…this coming from one of the best Porsche pilots around.
Likely the Indy 500s. We've been running them on my wife's Mustang this summer -- seven plus track days and they have been consistent, durable, and sticky enough. They are an incredible value.
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Probably the Firestone Firehawks indy 500

I looked at them, wild looking tires and pricey are these them?
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I recently inquired about lower cost tires suitable for a 911 from a very knowledgeable and up to date source. In the old days, we used Yokohama ES 100s(?) for street duty and occasional track days, Michelins or Pirellis get expensive in a hurry when you are burning through them fast.

The answer was a Firestone tire that is actually a Bridgestone, apparently they have merged. Can’t remember the model but it’s fantastic and very affordable…this coming from one of the best Porsche pilots around.

Bridgestone bought Firestone on Feb. 16, 1988. So not a recent change. The Firestone 500 killed Firestone’s reputation.
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Bridgestone bought Firestone on Feb. 16, 1988. So not a recent change. The Firestone 500 killed Firestone’s reputation.
How so??
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How so??
They knew they had a tread separation problem and failed to recall. They made design changes to correct the problem and went about their business.

Around 2000 they had a similar problem with tires to Ford. That was as much a Ford problem as a Firestone problem. I won't go into details unless you are interested.
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I'm sure you can get good tires by folks like Cooper or General, but I feel like the tires are the most important part of the car, and so I stick with what I'm confident will be good, Bridgestone or Michelin. I'd probably be willing to try a Continental or maybe Goodyear or Pirelli if a specific tire had a great reputation.

Years ago when I drove a non-turbo miata I tried a couple/few of the tires that folks raved about. One of them was the Yoko ES100 (IIRC). It had moderate grip compared to the other tires that I'd used. It had stiff sidewalls and lower limites, so I slid more and they wore fast. I was happy when I finally replaced those. I also tried one of the hot Hankook tires. They seemed to have good dry grip, but they loved to hydroplane and had poor wet grip which sucked for a daily driven car. I replaced those before they wore out. I also tried the Falken Azenis or something like that. They were much better than the other two, but I ended up going back to a Toyo that I'd previously had good results with. It wasn't too painful to experiment with the miata since a full set of tires was usually $400-450. On the Boxster, a full set of tires is 3-4x that, so I won't experiment much.
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I've had several brands. The best of what I've had were Continental Contisports. Then Michelin Pilot Exalto. My most recent are Yokohama S-Drive (budget reasons).
All three have a similar look but the Yokos were a major disappointment.

As far as road noise is concerned - the air cooled 3.2 with a B&B exhaust makes that not a problem.
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I replaced the Pilots on my 911 with some Hankooks that were quieter, stuck fine, and were about half the price. Wet adhesion wasn't really an issue since I rarely got caught out. And since I replaced tires by date codes not tread wear, it made a lot of sense.

I think the coops might be a bridge too far, but if it works for you then hell to the yeah.
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When I had my 15 inch wheels and the summer performance tires vanished from the market for 15 inch in the sizes I needed, I tried a few different tires. All were M&S rated, and OK in the rain and not much better in the dry. I finally gave up and bought the Euromeister 17 inch fake Fuchs so I can use modern summer performance tires. I have had two sets of the Michelin Pilot Sports (not the sport plus) and driven them in 16 degree weather and 115 degree weather. On track and on the highway in the pouring rain. They are very round and have no vibrations, and simply work great.

Tires are the ONLY contact the car has with the ground, and they do all the steering, turning, and most important, braking. With a car with no ABS, I want the grippiest tire possible in all conditions that will allow me to make a 12 hour drive on the highway in the middle of hot summer, or in the riving rain. Autocross gummies are just not safe on a highway trip in the rain so those are out for me.

I have 225/40-17 front and 255/40-17 rear, Michelin Pilot Sports. Overall I love them. Michelin replaces that tire with some newer version recently so my next tire set will be different.
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Bridgestone owns Firestone. Conti owns General. Have been using General G max on the v12 Benz's in place of DSW and am happy with them. Not that I push those cars like the 911.
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I have BFG Comp-2 A/S on our sedan and they have been the best all season for the money that I have had. They work well in dry, wet and light snow.

We have Blizzaks for the minivan and truck for heavier snow.

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A 911 that breaks loose on the rear end can be fun. Or bad, depends on how you drive.

Worn/****y tires are a double edge sword
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Tires are the ONLY contact the car has with the ground, and they do all the steering, turning, and most important, braking. With a car with no ABS, I want the grippiest tire possible in all conditions that will allow me to make a 12 hour drive on the highway in the middle of hot summer, or in the riving rain. Autocross gummies are just not safe on a highway trip in the rain so those are out for me.
The softest, highest grip tires that you can manage are likely to give you the most grip, dry and wet. The limitation is that if those tires also have minimal tread and are more likely to hydroplane. Obviously, if you drive in rain/very wet conditions, resistance to hydroplaning has got to be a factor that you take into account.
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The softest, highest grip tires that you can manage are likely to give you the most grip, dry and wet. The limitation is that if those tires also have minimal tread and are more likely to hydroplane. Obviously, if you drive in rain/very wet conditions, resistance to hydroplaning has got to be a factor that you take into account.
Very much so. That's why I went with an "all season" tire with particular attention to it's wet performance. You really should take your driving into account when selecting a tire. I no longer autocross or do track days...but I do drive went roads over 2 and 4 lane highways a lot...thus the conti choice I mentioned above.

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