Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11494368)

More info has come out. They are using the email I posted earlier from our union rep to confirm it was a live round but I don't think there's been real confirmation on that yet.

They also detail some of the safety issues we practice on set, I'm not sure where things broke down but someone is in big trouble. Sad situation all around.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10118665/Rust-movie-set-starring-Alec-Baldwin-LOCKED-New-Mexico.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

Originally Posted by IROC (Post 11494043)

I thought the same thing. Didn't Brandon Lee (Bruce Lee's son) die the same way? I seem to remember that Brandon's death was due to the pressure wave created by the prop gun discharge and not an actual projectile, but that may be completely incorrect.

Originally Posted by vash (Post 11494514)

i kinda recall this incident. i think they had to do a close up of the revolver so they put dummy rounds into the firearm. so the audience can see the bullet in the front on shot of the gun.

then they took out the dummies and put in blanks. but the dummy round bullet came out of the dummy case and stayed behind in the cylinder only to have a blank put in behind it. the blank firing pushed out the bullet.

i think this is what i remembered. been a long time, and i could be full of chit.

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11494525)

No, that's exactly what happened but one of the dummy rounds still had a live primer that pushed the bullet out of the casing and lodged it in the barrel. Later the blank finished the job.

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 11494479)

If firing into the camera directly, you place a sheet of Lexan around the camera and those behind it, with a lens hole in the Lexan. When you do close up filming of a gun being loaded with what appears to be a real round complete with a bullet and casing, its normal to have a BB inside the casing so the armorer can shake it and verify its a dummy round. Inconceivable that a real round got loaded.

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 11494479)

Strange that both the DP and the director got shot with one "round", they would not have been in the scene, they would/should have been behind the camera. So draw your own conclusions about what Alec Baldwin did or didn't do with the gun. When you do close up filming of a gun being loaded with what appears to be a real round complete with a bullet and casing, its normal to have a BB inside the casing so the armorer can shake it and verify its a dummy round. Inconceivable that a real round got loaded.

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11494087)

Because pointing your finger and saying "Pew-Pew" won't fool anyone.

My heartfelt condolences to everyone involved. What a mess.

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 11494562)

^ agreed, edited my thoughts.

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11494249)

Let's wait for the facts of the matter.

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11494645)

Nah, Baldwin is a scumbag. Hang em.

Originally Posted by varmint (Post 11494610)

I used to do graphics for a lot of low budget action/horror movies. They’d mostly use toy guns. The budgets were that low. A guy skilled in After Effects can fake muzzle flash, a shell casing flying out and even make the slide move back.

I had to tell a director once that the only thing I couldn’t fix was the actors lips going “pew pew pew”.