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That will take more than duct tape to fix.
An awesome set of TV repairman tools should suffice.

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Old 04-08-2022, 12:11 PM
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Maybe they could use some of those boat stands, if they can figure out where to rent them.
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That will take more than duct tape to fix.
Yep, duct tape AND JB Weld!
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Old 04-08-2022, 12:17 PM
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LOL!

Yep, duct tape AND JB Weld!
Flex Seal, Gorilla Glue and tie wire should fix her up.
It should be back in the air in a week or so.
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Looks like they knew there was a potential issue. Note emergency vehicles all lined up with their lights on.
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https://youtu.be/qPk23hPooKY

Don't know if I linked this correctly.

Juan Browne's "blancolirio" channel on YouTube has a good initial look of this event. Juan is an experienced 757 pilot.
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That may not be as bad as it looks. The fuselage separated at what we call a "join ring" between two major sections. The sketch below shows where these sections go together on most traditional aluminum commercial aircraft. I'm not familiar with 757 specific body section numbers, but if that were a twin aisle aircraft like I used to fly around and fix, the section numbers would be "41 section" for the cockpit, "42 section" from the back of the cockpit to the leading edge, "44 section" from leading to trailing edge (shown in blue), "46 section" from trailing edge to empennage, and "48 section" holding the empennage.



So, this thing separated between the 44 and 46 sections, right on the join ring. Not surprising with it side loaded and bouncing like that. And, believe it or not, entirely repairable. Just depends on the value of the aircraft, cost of repair, and the insurance company. Just like your car.

One factor that does not come into play with your car, however, is availability of a replacement, and schedule commitments. Airlines will often pay the difference between the value assigned by their insurance carrier just to get it back in the air to meet those commitments. Maybe not at this time, with lots of airplanes parked, which may decide its fate. It is, however, entirely repairable from a purely mechanical perspective.
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They lost the left hydraulics after takeoff, went into holding, ran the checklist and returned to land. They had no left reverser and no ABS and no nose wheel steering, among other things.. At most any other airport they would have been fine but this one had a ditch just off the side of the taxiway and they slid down in it..
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I've heard it as "anything you walk away from is a landing. A good landing is when you get to use the aircraft again"..
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They lost the left hydraulics after takeoff, went into holding, ran the checklist and returned to land. They had no left reverser and no ABS and no nose wheel steering, among other things.. At most any other airport they would have been fine but this one had a ditch just off the side of the taxiway and they slid down in it..

Though I can't say for sure, likely an overweight landing if they had recently departed.

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Don't they have a rear door for taking the packages out?

Could we get a meme with Tom Hanks holding a stop watch superimposed?
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Question-if they lost left hydraulics, would it have been dangerous/difficult to hold and dump fuel-its costa rica, could get out over water easily, and it seems they circled to run their checklists.
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Without brakes could you've gone to Mexico City or even Houston for a longer flatter runway?
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What's with a ditch alongside the runway?
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Question-if they lost left hydraulics, would it have been dangerous/difficult to hold and dump fuel-its costa rica, could get out over water easily, and it seems they circled to run their checklists.
The 757 like the 737 is not capable of jettisoning fuel. The max landing weight is close to max takeoff weight.



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That may not be as bad as it looks. The fuselage separated at what we call a "join ring" between two major sections. The sketch below shows where these sections go together on most traditional aluminum commercial aircraft. I'm not familiar with 757 specific body section numbers, but if that were a twin aisle aircraft like I used to fly around and fix, the section numbers would be "41 section" for the cockpit, "42 section" from the back of the cockpit to the leading edge, "44 section" from leading to trailing edge (shown in blue), "46 section" from trailing edge to empennage, and "48 section" holding the empennage.



So, this thing separated between the 44 and 46 sections, right on the join ring. Not surprising with it side loaded and bouncing like that. And, believe it or not, entirely repairable. Just depends on the value of the aircraft, cost of repair, and the insurance company. Just like your car.

One factor that does not come into play with your car, however, is availability of a replacement, and schedule commitments. Airlines will often pay the difference between the value assigned by their insurance carrier just to get it back in the air to meet those commitments. Maybe not at this time, with lots of airplanes parked, which may decide its fate. It is, however, entirely repairable from a purely mechanical perspective.
I hope that the next owner looks at the PlaneFax on that SOB!

Even if it could be riveted back together, I'm picturing a collection of wires and hydraulic lines severed that makes a BMW e38 look like a Model T. Endless CELs for the next owner. PASS.
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