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cabmandone 04-08-2022 01:21 PM

I'm looking at "upgrading" my phone, Iphone, Galaxy, or Pixel?
 
I currently have a Galaxy S9 and it works just fine. But I've been considering upgrading to one of the newest models. The Pixel 6 Pro and the Galaxy S22 Ultra have an alarming number of reviews mentioning issues. My kids each got a new Iphone 13 pro max and they seem to be problem free. My phone really does everything I want it to do but they're offering $700 in trade for my phone to upgrade. Dammit! I don't know which phone to go with???

Sooner or later 04-08-2022 01:25 PM

I have a Galaxy S20. It has been flawless.

cabmandone 04-08-2022 01:31 PM

^^^
That's the weird thing! The 20 and 21 are sorted out. The S22 Ultra seems to be having some rollout issues. The only reason the Iphone even remotely interests me is for facetime. I can see where it would be nice if I want to chat with my oldest daughter.

gacook 04-08-2022 01:40 PM

I avoid anything Apple like the plague. I simply can't abide by their human rights practices, so they'll never see a dime from me.

I have the new Samsung Flip, and it's been a good phone. Great camera, does everything else a smartphone is supposed to do, and I like the smaller form factor.

cabmandone 04-08-2022 01:43 PM

Oh by the way... I'm the only one in my house that doesn't have an Iphone! I've been a "Samsung guy" since I bought my Galaxy S5 (still use it for my Bosch bluetooth code reader)

VINMAN 04-08-2022 01:51 PM

So it begins...

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TimT 04-08-2022 03:38 PM

I've had google phones from the beginning... sold as Nexus then.. now Pixels

I like that they have no carrier bloatware or spyware.... Google and Apple do enough of that on there own

All the manufacturers phones have teething problems when initially released, it might take a round or two of updates to fix things

masraum 04-08-2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11659702)
Oh by the way... I'm the only one in my house that doesn't have an Iphone! I've been a "Samsung guy" since I bought my Galaxy S5 (still use it for my Bosch bluetooth code reader)

There will be some features that are better when everyone is on an iPhone. They may not matter to you, but they can be nice. Texting is a little more feature rich and works better between iPhones.

masraum 04-08-2022 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 11659802)
I've had google phones from the beginning... sold as Nexus then.. now Pixels

I like that they have no carrier bloatware or spyware.... Google and Apple do enough of that on there own

All the manufacturers phones have teething problems when initially released, it might take a round or two of updates to fix things

I'd agree that if you're on Android, it's probably best to have a Google phone. All of the other stuff that I've seen ends up being full of bloatware, and in the past, was also less stable than the Google stuff (probably due to the bloatware).

I had the first google phone, the G1 which was HTC. I liked it, and at the time, Android was, IMO superior to the iPhone. I think I had 2 more Android phones. By that time, Android and Apple were neck in neck as far as features and capabilities. I switched to Apple and haven't looked back. All of our family is Apple except for my son-in-law, and my wife and I are also both running Macs. For me the feature of interoperability between various devices in the new feature that I love. Also, I feel like the hardware is usually better made/higher quality.

wildthing 04-08-2022 03:52 PM

I traded my S9 for an S20FE. Wife likes the camera. I just use it for calls and text, and Slack for work, and surfing when waiting for the kids…

Steve Carlton 04-08-2022 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11659678)
I currently have a Galaxy S9 and it works just fine. But I've been considering upgrading to one of the newest models. The Pixel 6 Pro and the Galaxy S22 Ultra have an alarming number of reviews mentioning issues. My kids each got a new Iphone 13 pro max and they seem to be problem free. My phone really does everything I want it to do but they're offering $700 in trade for my phone to upgrade. Dammit! I don't know which phone to go with???

I'll sell you my iPhone 12. Then we can play pool all day long. Bullitt Mustang not included.

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flatbutt 04-08-2022 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11659687)
^^^
That's the weird thing! The 20 and 21 are sorted out. The S22 Ultra seems to be having some rollout issues. The only reason the Iphone even remotely interests me is for facetime. I can see where it would be nice if I want to chat with my oldest daughter.

I use google duo not facetime

cabmandone 04-08-2022 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11659804)
There will be some features that are better when everyone is on an iPhone. They may not matter to you, but they can be nice. Texting is a little more feature rich and works better between iPhones.

Yeah I know what you mean. I think it would be nice to know when I send a text that the receiver has read it. That's something I can't see now with my Galaxy.

cabmandone 04-08-2022 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11659818)
I'll sell you my iPhone 12. Then we can play pool all day long. Bullitt Mustang not included.

I want a new phone man! Plus I can get a 13 pro max for $400 with my $700 trade for my S9.

Noah930 04-08-2022 09:36 PM

I have an old Pixel. It's definitely not as intuitive and smooth to use as a comparable iPhone. There always seems to be an extra step or two in getting anything done. Not a big deal normally, but every once on awhile (i.e. in a car) it's just that much more difficult to complete a task.

hbueno 04-09-2022 03:08 AM

I got myself a Pixel 4a last year. Not too pricey, right size, no crapware, and great camera. The Samsungs are fine but I despise the amount of crapware they come with.

I've never found iOS devices to be intuitive, but that's obviously a personal preference.

Icemaster 04-09-2022 04:14 AM

Look at a OnePlus. I went from an S9 to an N10, liked it so much I put both my boys on them when they retired theirs. No bloatware and not carrier specific, supports 5G and buying pre-owned or returned it was maybe 1/3 the cost. Granted this was all pre-inflation so haven't checked.

The lack of carrier apps and manufacturer bloatware was what sold me, got incredibly sick of paying for a slug of memory and only being able to use half of it with no option to remove apps unless you jailbreak.

I went the iPhone route a few years ago, never again. Apple's UI and limits to formats and content transfer pissed me off so much I sold the phone and went back to Android after less than a year. Music I owned (but didn't buy through Apple) wouldn't transfer over unless I ripped the DMC. I love their stock but will never buy their products.

cabmandone 04-09-2022 04:33 AM

One of the things that drives me bonkers is lack of "priority" for bluetooth devices on my S9. Seems it's no better on the new phones. I can be using my galaxy buds, walk out of my house, and the phone connects to the bluetooth in my shop rather than staying with my buds. Same thing when I pull my car in the shop. It'll disconnect from whatever is being used and connect to the shop stereo. I've read that the only way to give priority is to remove the devices and then add them again moving them on the list of devices.

GH85Carrera 04-09-2022 04:59 AM

If you have or plan on using a iPad with your phone, the iPhone is the way to go. The menus are the same and they interact quite well. My wife would fight hard to keep her iPad. She reads books, and uses it a lot.

Nickshu 04-09-2022 05:03 AM

I have the new Galaxy S22+, upgraded from an S20. It's not a huge leap forward, processor speed is faster by a little and screen gestures are smoother. Camera is better. No complaints so far but these phones are so good in the last few generations the improvements with each new version are much smaller than they used to be.

unclebilly 04-09-2022 05:20 AM

iPhone 13 Pro… love it.

red-beard 04-09-2022 06:05 AM

Consider the Samsung Z-Flip3. Specs are the same as the S21.

It came out later last year, it is on the latest operating system. It is super convenient. I have this as my secondary phone (Idaho). My primary is an S21 Ultra (I like the S pen for some things).

I really like the flip form factor and the screen is surprisingly good. The closing lid protects the screen very well. And I run some clear half covers for the main body.

I just bought a second one for my wife to replace her standard S20.

I switched to an iPhone many years ago and went back to Android. If you are used to Samsung, you might have issues with an iPhone, since things are different. Nothing wrong with an iPhone, just that things are setup different, and you have to unlearn a bunch of things and relearn.

red-beard 04-09-2022 06:08 AM

Note, my wife went from an S8 to the S20. The S9 to an S22 will be an excellent upgrade. The biggest difference will be 5G cellular service which started with a few S10 phones but was fully implemented with the S20 line.

I had issues with my S20+ and my wife is having some issues with her S20, which is why I upgraded after only 1 year. She's had the S20 since fall of 2020, so the Flip is a good upgrade.

My S21 Ultra has been excellent, except for the screen dying and having to be replaced.

cabmandone 04-09-2022 08:13 AM

The more I read, the more I lean towards the Iphone. Seems the S22 and the Pixel 6 are having a lot of glitches. The Iphone 13 Pro Max that each of my kids have seems like a pretty well sorted system. I can't stand waiting for Samsung or Google to fix their damn flagship phone when it should have been well sorted before it came to market.

upsscott 04-09-2022 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11659853)
I want a new phone man! Plus I can get a 13 pro max for $400 with my $700 trade for my S9.


Your s9 probably has more up to date features than the latest iPhone.

upsscott 04-09-2022 08:25 AM

I have the Note 20 Ultra. I feel no need to upgrade to anything.

red-beard 04-09-2022 08:26 AM

The S22 Ultra is the new Note

VINMAN 04-09-2022 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11660266)
I have the Note 20 Ultra. I feel no need to upgrade to anything.

I had the Note 5 for the longest time. Was extremely happy with it. When it got trashed a couple months ago, I wanted the Note 20 but there was a month back order on them, so I went with the S20FE instead. Happy with it, but still liked my old Note 5 better. Should have just gotten a refurb. Really miss the S pen too.

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Steve Carlton 04-09-2022 09:02 AM

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cabmandone 04-09-2022 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11660266)
I have the Note 20 Ultra. I feel no need to upgrade to anything.

My battery life has progressively gotten worse this year. I don't really want to upgrade but the battery life is going to force me to.

upsscott 04-09-2022 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 11660289)
I had the Note 5 for the longest time. Was extremely happy with it. When it got trashed a couple months ago, I wanted the Note 20 but there was a month back order on them, so I went with the S20FE instead. Happy with it, but still liked my old Note 5 better. Should have just gotten a refurb. Really miss the S pen too.

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I’m usually a upgrade every two years guy. This is the first phone I want to hold onto for a bit.

john70t 04-10-2022 09:33 AM

For myself, a smartphone doesn't make sense unless it works 100% of the time. Drawing apps are pretty cool to doodle with but if they can't port to a bigger screen on another computer then it stays a doodle. If I buy music then it needs to port to other devices. Same with any other data/photos/vids. Surfing the web or typing email on a tiny screen with limited functionality works in a jiffy but I guess I'm behind these modern times. Swiping my phone over a point-of-sale for automatic credit payment is incomprehensible.

Maps and in particular dependable offline GPS maps are about the only function which I would purchase a smart phone for. AppleMaps don't work offline. GoogleMaps do. There are other programs such as HereWeGo that only work on iOS 13+ so my hand-me-down iPhones are basically bricked.

Google/Android has way too much marketplace dominance for just about every piece of major functional software out there, and collects more centralized customer information on you than your mom. Even government websites don't function without it. It also has been known to 'steer' search results in a major way. That is the crux whenever it comes time to find or use essential info or network. Take that information as you will.

Apple is a bit tricky to use unless one is fluent in the complex tap-swipe-givethedogabone language that it uses. Using simplified icons over words makes me shake my head. Apple also takes photos of the user every ~7 seconds which is about as highly intrusive as it gets. Not only are your biometric credentials being stolen but your very reactions to all types of different content is being monitored and categorized as a total profile. I hope Apple users get paid to be lab rats.

Those are the only smartphone OS commonly available.
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A couple interesting phones:

The Kyocera are bulletproof and Android-based.
https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/ultra-rugged-kyocera-phones-gps-smartphones-my-guide.1206076/

Purism is privacy-based and uses it's own OS, but YMMV on network and specific apps.
https://puri.sm/news/

Wetwork 04-10-2022 09:43 AM

Samsung Z Flip 3 100% my fav phone to date..tricked my GF into needing one, to see how good it worked. Ended up getting my own three months later. It actually fits in all my pockets, preforms exactly as I need. Love the thing. I have it paired to a Samsung smart watch. When I'm feeding hay off the back of the pickup and the phone rings I can answer it with the watch and use the watch to talk and listen, text, and change the song on the radio. And I don't have to dig out the phone anymore for the little stuff, just glance at my watch.-WW

VINMAN 04-10-2022 09:53 AM

Was looking at the Z Flip. Seems pretty cool, but I was concerned with the durability of them. I'm pretty rough on my phones.

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stevej37 04-10-2022 11:58 AM

Look for an unlocked smartphone on Amazon, Ebay, or wherever
https://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPhone-64GB-Midnight-Green/dp/B07ZQRMWVB/ref=sr_1_15?crid=BZ6HOS7P3323&keywords=unlocked%2B apple%2Bsmartphones&qid=1649620470&sprefix=unlocke d%2Bapple%2Bsmartphones%2B%2Caps%2C110&sr=8-15&th=1
.....and activate your service through TracFone. Pay a quarter (or less) of what the other carriers want.
Have all the services and features of the others.

Wetwork 04-10-2022 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 11661042)
Was looking at the Z Flip. Seems pretty cool, but I was concerned with the durability of them. I'm pretty rough on my phones.

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Honesty I'd say its tougher than a regular smartphones...if its closed. Pretty hard to bust the screen if its closed as its protected by the shell. It's a smart phone folded in half so you have half the contact area to bash. I broke the screen on a biggish smart phone one time cuz my shotgun butt was against it in my coat pocket when I pulled the trigger. I think the only way to bust it would be to have it open and sit on it or fold it backwards some how? I've dropped mine a lot of times in the closed postion with no damage. I'm way hard on phones myself. I miss the old rugged GZones. I acutally plowed one up in the field and ended up recovering it and it was GTG. -WW

GH85Carrera 04-11-2022 06:32 AM

The single biggest reason to go with one platform or the other is the menu and setup. If your family and friends are using that platform, you can get "tech support" from them.

I am still using my iPhone 11 Pro. Great phone, and great camera. I will say I HATE with a passion the iTunes app for my PC. To back my phone up or set up photos is just an exercise in frustration and total non logic.

Steve Carlton 04-11-2022 11:02 AM

You will be assimilated.

masraum 04-11-2022 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 11661033)
For myself, a smartphone doesn't make sense unless it works 100% of the time. Drawing apps are pretty cool to doodle with but if they can't port to a bigger screen on another computer then it stays a doodle. If I buy music then it needs to port to other devices. Same with any other data/photos/vids. Surfing the web or typing email on a tiny screen with limited functionality works in a jiffy but I guess I'm behind these modern times. Swiping my phone over a point-of-sale for automatic credit payment is incomprehensible.

Maps and in particular dependable offline GPS maps are about the only function which I would purchase a smart phone for. AppleMaps don't work offline. GoogleMaps do. There are other programs such as HereWeGo that only work on iOS 13+ so my hand-me-down iPhones are basically bricked.

Google/Android has way too much marketplace dominance for just about every piece of major functional software out there, and collects more centralized customer information on you than your mom. Even government websites don't function without it. It also has been known to 'steer' search results in a major way. That is the crux whenever it comes time to find or use essential info or network. Take that information as you will.

Apple is a bit tricky to use unless one is fluent in the complex tap-swipe-givethedogabone language that it uses. Using simplified icons over words makes me shake my head. Apple also takes photos of the user every ~7 seconds which is about as highly intrusive as it gets. Not only are your biometric credentials being stolen but your very reactions to all types of different content is being monitored and categorized as a total profile. I hope Apple users get paid to be lab rats.

A lot of the Apple stuff, if you have an Apple phone, tablet, and or computer will port back and forth pretty effortlessly. That and the fact that the Apple stuff all does a little more or works a little better when talking to other Apple stuff.

Using a phone (or better yet, watch) to pay for stuff is fantastic.

I've never used Apple Maps. I actually haven't used Google maps in forever either, but you can use Google maps on iPhones last I heard. I usually use Waze. I don't know if there's an "offline" mode in Waze, but that's never been a problem for me.

I suspect just about any and every big tech co collects as much data as they can. I'm sure that Google and Apple both collect a ton of info. You can go into settings and turn most/a bunch of that stuff off (and I do).

My phone shows my icons with the names of the apps underneath the icons. I can also create folders and name the folders and group apps in the folders.

iPhones do not take your picture every 7 seconds. But it does check to see if you're paying attention. It is also a setting that you can disable. I suspect any phone with some sort of face detection is doing it. It's the same as any device that you can talk to "Hey, Siri" or "Hey, Alexa". The device has to be listening to work with that.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/woman-claims-iphone-takes-photo-24110883
I'm pretty sure that any cell phone that uses some sort of face detection (most of them these days?) does the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11661784)
The single biggest reason to go with one platform or the other is the menu and setup. If your family and friends are using that platform, you can get "tech support" from them.

I am still using my iPhone 11 Pro. Great phone, and great camera. I will say I HATE with a passion the iTunes app for my PC. To back my phone up or set up photos is just an exercise in frustration and total non logic.

Weird, you'd never mentioned that bolded bit before. :D

Jeff Hail 04-11-2022 01:58 PM

Run quickly away from the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro.

I had four in 16 days. All were defective. Then the ceullar provider could not locate anymore to replace the first 4. They are difficult to find because they are bad phones and are getting replaced at an alarming rate.

1st one could not be activated.
2 and 3 had batteries that overheated. Phones spent the night on the lawn cooling down
4 showed no signal standing underneath a repeater tower located down the street. Could not get reception and would not ring at my house.

Never had these problems with a Pixel 3 or Pxl 3 XL.

All sent back. Then took 4 months to get refunds from the provider in the form of a gift card after speaking to 27 individuals who could care less about customers. Cancelled my account after 23 years with Sprint/Nextel. They seem to feel it should cost me to have service and a device when they were unable to provide either. They have no customer service in the US any longer. All outsourced to the Phillipines, Brazil and Dominican Republic.

Then that merger with T Mobile? Its bad , really bad.

Good luck!


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