Gas stoves...maybe all done?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Extractor fans (rangehood) should suck the burnt gas fumes out.

Here in NZ we have to have extractor fans over the cooktop.

THey are not a code requirement here, and many don't actually move the air to outside.

For instance, I'd say that there's a 99.9% chance that this one sucks air in the bottom and then spits that air out of those slats in the front top.

[GH85Carrera]

I understand it is just anecdotal "evidence" but going back to my mom's mom's parents, my mom, her sister and brother all grew up with those open flame heaters in the house. All un-vented except into the house. None of them had asthma at all. Grandma and grandpa were non smokers as well, heck they did not cuss or drink either. 7 grandkids, and many great grandkkids visited and spent lots of time there. non developed asthma.

My brother did have a bout with asthma, when we were living in Hawaii. No heaters of any sort, so it was not the gas heaters for sure. He grew out of it by the time we moved to San Marcos, TX. Totally anecdotal, not proof, just what I experienced.

I understand the need to keep the world a bit safer for kids, but I personally hate a lot of it. Child proof caps are the worst. I hate them all. Our pharmacist has bottles that the cap can be put on upside down and be just a simple to remove and open screw on top. I destroy the commercial pill bottle tops to convert them to non child proof caps. No children are allowed in our master bathrooms.

Our house has breakable items on display in easy grasp of any kid. The last time we had a toddler here I told his mom our house was full of poisons, and breakable expensive items. She kept him on her lap and that was what I hoped for. Our house in for the comfort of our dogs and ourselves, not kids.

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by masraum

THey are not a code requirement here, and many don't actually move the air to outside.

For instance, I'd say that there's a 99.9% chance that this one sucks air in the bottom and then spits that air out of those slats in the front top.

Yeah but there is a filter in there. A filter takes care of all the bad.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by stevej37

Yeah but there is a filter in there. A filter takes care of all the bad.

LOL! Right, and the filter gets cleaned replaced once every century.

[island911]

Clean it!?

What, and remove all that sticky goodness that grabs the super evil cooktop TOXINS?

Like putting a cast-iron pan in the dishwasher I tell ya...

[island911]

Hey, aren't CO detectors mandatory these days? Or is that only a Left-coast thing?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by island911

Hey, aren't CO detectors mandatory these days? Or is that only a Left-coast thing?

I believe that's code. And around here, I believe code requires that all of the various detectors are hard wired (not battery powered) which is great for new builds...

[island911]

Interesting.

Do they have to be fully hardwired, or are the plug-in type ok too?

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by island911

Hey, aren't CO detectors mandatory these days? Or is that only a Left-coast thing?

It's not required here in MI....but it should be.
I had a furnace with a bad heat exchanger a few years back. I bought a hand held CO detector and the readings were max when the furnace ran. When it wasn't running, the readings were normal.

A day after seeing this, I called the local furnace guy and had a new one installed.

[Superman]

I think they, or somebody, is concerned about emissions. Not so much combustion byproducts but rather, about gas emissions before ignition and also about valves that leak gas in between uses. I will give up my gas stove when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

[jyl]

Some cities have banned gas ranges in new construction.

I think induction is a decent substitute for gas hobs, but I still prefer gas.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Superman

I think they, or somebody, is concerned about emissions. Not so much combustion byproducts but rather, about gas emissions before ignition and also about valves that leak gas in between uses. I will give up my gas stove when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

We are about to get a gas stove from 1948 installed and running as our primary. I'm fine with it. I'd have also been happy with an induction/electric stove. I bought what is essentially a really nice induction hot plate. I love it. The heat is FAST, and when you turn it off, the heat goes away as fast as the pan will allow. It would be easy to clean too, much easier than any other kind of cook top. And it's more efficient than gas. But gas is cool too.

[jyl]

I have lots of copper pots, and would have to get iron adapters to use them with induction, but that wouldn’t be a huge deal. My pots would stay cleaner with induction. When the electricity goes out, the gas hobs still work.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by jyl

I have lots of copper pots, and would have to get iron adapters to use them with induction, but that wouldn’t be a huge deal. My pots would stay cleaner with induction. When the electricity goes out, the gas hobs still work.

That's going to be the nice thing about our old stove.

I wonder how the adapters would work with copper pots. I have to assume it would remove a lot of the efficiency. I can't imagine that they'd work as well as a stainless pot with a nice thick ferrous layer that's part of the pot.

[p911dad]

Looks like the Gov't is running for cover, and now back-pedaling on the gas range prohibition. Too much backlash I guess.

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by dafischer

No more home on the range.

And 'Open Range' is my favorite movie.

[URY914]

Thank God the US Gov't is there to protect us from ourselves. Yet cigarettes' are still legal...

[Por_sha911]

The whole fossil fuel bad/"Zero emissions" scam is nothing but political.
Democrats and liberals need a platform to scream at the sky and keep the sheep from paying attention to their outrageous spending, supporting drag queens and pornography in schools, destruction of parental rights to educate their own children, totally senile and perverted president (who has been recently found to have CLASSIFIED documents in his home!), destruction of secure boarders, and socialist redistribution of wealth (except their own) agenda.
Heck yes this is a PARF issue.

[CalE]

Originally Posted by island911

Understand that politicians make HUGE money when they take control of any major industry.

They sell "exceptions" to those with deep pockets.

Gavin Nuisance is Pelosi's nephew. - He knows how to milk the system.

Also gavin pos nuisance was adopted by the Getty oil family.

[McLovin]

Racist stoves