Verbosity and IQ

[cockerpunk]

IQ isnt a real measure of anything. other that that you can take IQ tests.

its also steeped in racism, eugenics, and cultural bias.

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

What's the correlation between verbosity and IQ? Negative, positive, neither?

Not including this site, whose members are a little gray and smarter than average. Have you seen this in other sites?

It's both the quality of words and their formatting rather than sheer quantity that matters, IMNSHO.

And no - I'm not talking about those who select unusual words in place of something more pedestrian to *appear* intelligent.

[1990C4S]

Here is an interesting IQ video...

[3rd_gear_Ted]

Originally Posted by javadog

Is that three dollar word an expensive word, or a cheap one? We need your frame of reference here.

I had to ask myself.
Technically its the best word you can come up within the realm of the "Queens English" so as to dazzle with your brilliance and it must border on sarcasm too

[3rd_gear_Ted]

If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull*****.

In other words; its worth $3.00

[id10t]

IQ != education level. Verbosity may be, certainly is related to how much of the language you are exposed to.

But people who are well read or who spend time interacting with people who are well read will have more exposure to words in different contexts and uses, and more words in general. (just hearing the words on a audio stream, etc. doesn't do the same for "integration" into your thoughts etc as reading or talking/using the words)

Also as shown by some of the examples in the "racist" SAT test, etc. your actual upbringing can expose you to different words and their meanings and usages than someone else, even if pretty much anything else is equal (IQ, income, skin tone, etc) - regional slang/meaning even though they are "real" words in the OED - differences between lunch, dinner and supper. Or a "creek", "crick", "stream" or "brook". Or what the Brits call tea - or what they call a biscuit vs. what a southern boy like me calls a biscuit.



(FWIW I think IQ is your ability to learn, and apply known information to unknown situations, extrapolate and interpret data, think in multiple dimensions, etc. not how much you actually know. I've known a lot of people who made good grades in lots of classes who might give a brick some competition in brain power... if the brick was having a bad day)

[Bill Douglas]

I've found being articulately articulate doesn't equate to having a high IQ. Sometimes I do really stupid things.

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

Kamala's separated-at-birth brother?

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[Gogar]

never trust anyone who feels compelled to tell you their IQ score. Especially if they need to tell you in a very verbose way.

[deckard]

while it doesn't seem to be what's intended by the way the question is framed, verbosity, as a descriptive, is normally used as a perjorative.

[stomachmonkey]

Impossible to quantify, too many variables.

Is the speaker expounding on known subject matter or is the topic new or speculative.

I am prone to fits of verbal diarrhea when working through a speculative question that end of day really only requires a simple yes or no answer.

I think better when I hear myself speak and those who know me recognize when I'm working out an answer and just let me go through my process.

You can see it in how I write, everything is broken into parts. I'm an engineer by trade and heart and I need to understand the pieces that make up the whole because as failure teaches us, nothing is insignificant.

[cstreit]

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

What's the correlation between verbosity and IQ? Negative, positive, neither?

Not including this site, whose members are a little gray and smarter than average. Have you seen this in other sites?

Very little correlation. Its more personality than IQ I think.

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by Icemaster

Two correlations I can make:

- Talkative folks make it really easy to get a handle on how smart they are.

- The smartest people I've known are efficient with their words.

Agreed. The smartest people I know listen way more than they talk….

[Steve Carlton]

I’ve been told I have a room temperature IQ. So, that’s pretty awesome!

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

I’ve been told I have a room temperature IQ. So, that’s pretty awesome!

You're getting warm, buddy! At least you don't have to worry about overheating!

Just tell everyone that it's a room in Death Valley.

[red 928]

Measuring IQ is easy.
If someone has to post at least one new
"question" thread every day
( how many of you, do any of you ever... etc)

Or if they can't come up with anything to post
so they take someone else's new thread and
change it slightly to create their own new thread
(to be clever),
that means they have a high IQ




PS
This probably belongs in the favorite quote thread,
but I believe it was Jeremy Clarkson who said:

"There's man who's IQ starts with a decimal point".

[gacook]

Negative.

[red 928]

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by aschen

Brevity is the soul of wit

indeed

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

I’ve been told I have a room temperature IQ. So, that’s pretty awesome!

Probably Celsius. Definitely not Kelvin.