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berettafan 05-08-2024 07:59 AM

Seiko automatic
 
My first automatic watch. It’s a seiko save the ocean special edition with some nice touches. Sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel insert and a super neat face that gives the impression of looking up from deep water at some manta rays swimming by. I believe it’s referred to as the dark manta as there is a lighter version. Case is called the samurai for its sharp angles. This model is a king samurai thanks to sapphire and date bubble. Case kinda reminds me of the mitsubishi starion from the 80s. 4R35 movement seems to be about 2 min fast after 10 days give or take.

I love that it represents no batteries or internet connection. A small link to a better time.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8f8971bbc5.jpg

berettafan 05-08-2024 08:09 AM

I think i would like this model next-

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1715184564.jpg

pwd72s 05-08-2024 10:03 AM

Good looking watch for those into the diver watch style. At 200m water resist, bound to be rugged. Enjoy. Hey, nobody "needs" a Rolex...

Eric Hahl 05-08-2024 10:17 AM

Seiko makes a great automatic...Grand Seiko makes an even better automatic. My budget is Orient.

Baz 05-08-2024 10:21 AM

Wearing my Seiko 5 automatic right now......:)

tdw28210 05-08-2024 10:30 AM

I own a few "fancy" watches, but I always find myself usually wearing vintage Seiko autos. I have a "few" of them. My favorites and the Seiko Pogues and the Seiko SOG's. Both with pretty incredible back stories. Prices have been climbing for both but especially the SOGs. But today I am wearing a newer deep blue Seiko PADI diver watch with a blue leather strap. Not automatic, but actually solar powered. Super bright lume which I always appreciate. My only real complaint with it is that I wish the bezel was bi-directional.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1715192733.jpg

CHeck out hte Seiko Rally Divers from the late 60's. Very cool looking automatics. Seiko did some newer models with similar bezels a few years back. They are cool too, but not as cool as the originals.
https://thewatchcollector.co.uk/cdn/...g?v=1586247850

aschen 05-08-2024 11:57 AM

cant go wrong with Seiko anything really, especially a diver.

I am wearing a 70 year old hand wound watch today, so none of that fancy automatic technology.

unclebilly 05-08-2024 12:49 PM

Thats really cool and has me tempted... how do you get your text messages on it?

CurtEgerer 05-08-2024 02:11 PM

Tough to beat a Seiko diver. Probably got the NH35 movement which is highly reliable and accurate. Awesome watch. I bought this microbrand diver a few years back on a flash sale for under $100. Seiko NH35, ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, screw-down crown! Aragon Divemaster 42.

Edit: oops, just noticed you said it has a 4R35 movement. Pretty much the same as the NH35.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1715206253.jpg

stevej37 05-08-2024 02:24 PM

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pwd72s 05-08-2024 03:28 PM

Seiko mechanical? The dial of the Alpinist is attractive to me...but that's just me...a field watch fan.

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WPOZZZ 05-08-2024 04:25 PM

Seikosha makes very nice watches. Gotta love the lume on the diver's watches! That GMT is gorgeous.

A930Rocket 05-08-2024 05:24 PM

My Seiko Pepsi watch from 1974. My cousin bought it when he was stationed in Korea. My brother got the orange dial face. And my 25+ year old Rolex Submariner.

I haven’t worn either watch in the last three or four weeks.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1715217816.jpg

creaturecat 05-09-2024 05:39 AM

still have my Seiko automatic, i bought it with my first student loan. 1977.
works perfect. looks great.
OTOH? i threw my Tag H in the garbage. lasted 6-7 years they wanted 800 bucks to repair that POS.

berettafan 05-09-2024 06:11 AM

I foolishly bought a Tag (foolishly as i really didn't have the $$) when i was in college many moons ago. Stopped working and just gave up on it as the styling was dated and quartz just isn't interesting to me.

These Seiko watches do seem to be a nice balance of feel/quality and price. Paid $350 for the manta new via ebay. Unfortunately the green GMT (and a few others i dig) are about 3x's as much. At 4 digits i start to wonder if I might eventually wish i'd tried a Tudor or something like that. I see the Black Bay coming up used for low-mid 2k frequently. Haven't seen one in person to tell how much i'd like it though.

A shooting buddy of mine has a Sea Dweller and it really is a beautiful watch in person. Somewhat understated and a cool helium valve that is less obtrusive than the Omega version. But with Omega being a $4k + proposition and Rolex divers being 2-3x that i suspect i'll just read about those rather than experience them.

craigster59 05-09-2024 06:42 AM

I own about 4 Seiko automatic divers, all very nice watches. Unfortunately I haven't been wearing them, Wife gave me an Apple watch for Valentine's and that's been getting all the use lately. I like some of the features but don't care for the tracking and frequent interruptions (stand up, move around, "you closed all of your exercise rings! Now stand up again!").

I'll probably wander back to analog for awhile. One thing about the Seiko, some are assembled in Japan and some Korea and Indonesia. Look for the "J" in the model number, it might be more expensive but it denotes a Japan watch. Then you have to figure out the Turtle vs Sumo vs Samurai configuration, but all decent watches.

911 Rod 05-09-2024 08:22 AM

I have a Seiko Automatic that was my Dad's and he died 24 years ago. Time to pull it out!

rockfan4 05-09-2024 08:43 AM

This thread reminded me to advance the date on my Seiko.

I was going to post up a photo of my first Seiko 5, but it is missing. My brother found it when riding his bike, put a "found" ad in the paper, nobody claimed it. I don't remember how, but I talked him out of it. Maybe traded him something for it. It was on the ground because the pin broke that mounted the band. This would plague me for years. Eventually, when I got a job at a camera / computer store, I was able to order a box of 100. The pins would keep breaking and the watch would keep hitting the ground, and one day in the late 90's / early 2000's, the hit was hard enough and the watch quit working. At the time it wasn't worth getting fixed, and I bought a similar one. That one didn't last as long. The band didn't break on it, but it just quit.

Now I have a battery powered Seiko titanium. Much lighter, and if I don't wear it for a week, it's still running. I've probably had this one at least 15 years.

pwd72s 05-09-2024 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfan4 (Post 12246655)
This thread reminded me to advance the date on my Seiko.

I was going to post up a photo of my first Seiko 5, but it is missing. My brother found it when riding his bike, put a "found" ad in the paper, nobody claimed it. I don't remember how, but I talked him out of it. Maybe traded him something for it. It was on the ground because the pin broke that mounted the band. This would plague me for years. Eventually, when I got a job at a camera / computer store, I was able to order a box of 100. The pins would keep breaking and the watch would keep hitting the ground, and one day in the late 90's / early 2000's, the hit was hard enough and the watch quit working. At the time it wasn't worth getting fixed, and I bought a similar one. That one didn't last as long. The band didn't break on it, but it just quit.

Now I have a battery powered Seiko titanium. Much lighter, and if I don't wear it for a week, it's still running. I've probably had this one at least 15 years.

Spring bar failure is why the Brits came up with the NATO band. Break a bar, the watch stays on the wrist. Good military design, but I don't like how they look.

berettafan 06-03-2024 10:02 AM

Well that didn't take long. Just sent an 'I'll take it' for a Tudor GMT.

This is why I never messed with drugs, I have very little self control.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717437721.jpg

aschen 06-03-2024 10:11 AM

Blackbay GMT is a good choice, you will enjoy.

berettafan 06-03-2024 10:24 AM

It seems prices are depressed on stories of date wheel issues, this one falls after the likely problem (2018-mid 2020 or so) period AND Tudor extended warranty to 5 years so I'm good for 2 more years if it comes up. Watch shows some wear but that's fine by me and could be buffed up down the road if needed.

Tobra 06-03-2024 07:15 PM

Y'all do seem to have a permanent jones for watches

I have a really pretty Seiko with a faceted crystal I have had 40 years. I bet I have not worn it in 25 years

red-beard 06-04-2024 04:18 AM

My most recent purchase:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503442.jpg

METAS which one-ups the COSC certifications.

It's a disease I tell you...

red-beard 06-04-2024 04:31 AM

On the Seiko watches, I've built a bunch of NH35 and NH34 watches. I'm now diving into repairing the movements.

NH35 Explorer - Maybe $80 in parts

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg

NH34 GMTs - maybe $120 in parts

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg

These are Swiss ETA 2824-2 or Sellita SW200 movements. All Swiss parts and "Top" or almost COSC movements - About $600 in parts each

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg

Delving into minor internal repairs, I'm learning to do a full rebuild.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717503802.jpg

aschen 06-04-2024 06:29 AM

Lol that Relax exporter 2 is pretty amusing.

berettafan 06-04-2024 06:32 AM

Well my gmt seller is playing games and stopped responding. Ugh. I keep flipping back and forth to the Pelagos. AND I found a slightly used green seiko gmt for under $1k. Talk about complications!

red-beard 06-04-2024 06:44 AM

You can get a very nice Glycine GMT for $500‐600

https://www.jomashop.com/glycine-combat-sub-sport-42-bronze-gmt-automatic-blue-dial-mens-watch-gl0317.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717512169.jpg

There is also a Green Dial version.

And this is an "All Swiss" watch using the Sellita SW330-2, which is actually better than the ETA 2893! Awesome watch for the price!

Rick Lee 06-04-2024 06:54 AM

I had a really good month and treated myself last week.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1e7c8a65b7.jpg

aschen 06-04-2024 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 12260689)
Well my gmt seller is playing games and stopped responding. Ugh. I keep flipping back and forth to the Pelagos. AND I found a slightly used green seiko gmt for under $1k. Talk about complications!

Pelagos is my favorite of the Tudor line, its a modern interp on a dive watch with Ti and on the fly adjustable bracelet.

BB GMT is cool, but like all the BB is trying to look retro, especially with the fake bracelet rivits. Not really knocking it, cool watch, but my preference is for design honesty over retro inspired.

Unsolicited opinion of little value of course.

red-beard 06-04-2024 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschen (Post 12260704)
Pelagos is my favorite of the Tudor line, its a modern interp on a dive watch with Ti and on the fly adjustable bracelet.

BB GMT is cool, but like all the BB is trying to look retro, especially with the fake bracelet rivits. Not really knocking it, cool watch, but my preference is for design honesty over retro inspired.

Unsolicited opinion of little value of course.

Yep, and it is working for them! Since they put out the Black Bay line, they have become a player, in the top 20 for both $ and delivered watches. They will never truly get out of the shadow of their big brother, but they make quality watches for a much fairer price, without the stupid games.

berettafan 06-18-2024 05:31 AM

Well it’s no Rolex but I’m digging this. Waiting on additional link to put it back on the bracelet.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e3b3f47a8f.jpg


I still would like to try on a Pelagos but no way I’m willing to own both. Got this for a very reasonable price.

berettafan 06-18-2024 05:32 AM

Rick I love the deep red on that. Those things appear to be money in the bank.

red-beard 06-18-2024 05:35 AM

That Omega is better than a Pelagos. I am a Tudor fan, but the Pelagos is meh.

berettafan 06-18-2024 05:36 AM

Red have you fiddled with regulating the Seiko 4r36? Mine seems to run about +36 per day and i'd love to get it down to 10 or better if possible.


Somewhat veering off topic i stumbled across Damasko watches online. Bunches of really sharp looking designs and apparently some good movements.

red-beard 06-18-2024 07:42 AM

You need a timegrapher. They are ~$140 on Amazon for a Weishi 1000, which is fine.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1718724726.jpg

Now to adjust the movement, take a look at this photo. This is what the movement looks like with the back off.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1718724788.jpg

And here is a closeup of the adjustment mechanism

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1718725179.jpg

Ignore the Beat Error for now.

The real regulation is done with the lower arm. It works for big adjustments. For fine adjustments, I put a screwdriver on the little pointing nub and turn the screwdriver. It doesn't take much.

red-beard 06-18-2024 07:47 AM

Take a look at Wicked Watch. They use both Japanese and Swiss movements. The more expensive are Swiss.

Also look at Dufrane out of Austin TX. They are even offering a GMT

jyl 06-18-2024 08:06 AM

My 6809-7290 needs servicing. Where do you all send your automatic Seikos?

red-beard 06-18-2024 08:11 AM

I use a local guy in Houston for what I can't do, or an Authorized dealer for my watches under warranty. I am starting to work on the movements.

CurtEgerer 06-18-2024 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 12260627)
On the Seiko watches, I've built a bunch of NH35 and NH34 watches. I'm now diving into repairing the movements.

Very cool. Nice work!


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