Windows 11

[JackDidley]

I have been using Linux for about 15 years but always have a Windows partition for things that just dont like Linux. About 3 years ago I tried W11 and hated it and went back to W10. Well they are about to end support for W10 so I decided to give W11 a try. I am sort of confused. W11 with the addition of Brave browser is working great. I may just kick Linux to the curb.

[masraum]

Nice, congrats on finding something that works for you. I was very happy with Win 7. I moved on from Win 7 well after MS stopped supporting it, and have now been running Mac for 4-5 years.

[JackDidley]

Originally Posted by masraum

Nice, congrats on finding something that works for you. I was very happy with Win 7. I moved on from Win 7 well after MS stopped supporting it, and have now been running Mac for 4-5 years.

I almost never use Windows. I thought 8 was ok. Used 10 a a little but 11 was terrible when I tried it. After removing one drive and Cortana it really seems to work well. Using Mint 22 right now but I may get used to W11.

[Deschodt]

End support is relative... We were rushing at work to transition from 10 to 11 and found out extended support will be available "cheap" - maybe not cheap to all, but for us +/- $1 per PC per year (enterprise deal). If it's "available" it will continue to be usable for a bit even if you don't get all the patches...

Win11 - seems like MS gargled interface bits and spat them out all over for no purpose other than to confuse you - but it's fairly similar to win10 once you sorta kinda move stuff around with minimal effort.

Mac, yeah, stable, decent, but apple ecosystem can get annoying (please confirm the code on your ipad.. "where is my ipad?"), enter your appleID again again again, and apple builds OS to make older macs obsolescent fast..

I literally have one of each in front of me (win10+11 via RDP to support both at work, personal old Mac for music/banking and photos, Win11 personal for gaming). It's not THAT hard to adapt.

Side note: if mac, apple music BLOWS at managing your library if you do not subscribe to their monthly music service. If like me you had a CD collection that you ripped to Itunes long ago, apple music defaults to theirs all the time, never finds your music when searching, awful. I just paid for something called Doppler. What Itunes/music should have been from day 1. Fantastic for $30 and one time only, not a sub like everything these days.

[john70t]

Support is to end in October. You can pay ~$20-30? for another year of coverage.


It seems people don't like Win11 AI, news/ads feeds, or any other unwanted features they decided we needed:
(you can turn most of it off)
https://www.techspot.com/news/105801-market-share-surprise-windows-10-popularity-increasing.html
As of the end of November 2024, Windows 10's market share increased from 60.95 percent to 61.83 percent. Despite being nearly 10 years old, the operating system is seeing unexpected, albeit modest, growth in popularity. Meanwhile, Windows 11's market share dropped slightly from 35.58 percent (in October) to 34.94 percent.

[JackDidley]

I am sort of a cheapskate when it comes to computers. No Mac for me. I am actually using 2 identical Latitude E6510s from 2011. 8 gigs of RAM and 250 gig SSDs. I bought them used. They are solid and have taken abuse.

[GH85Carrera]

When I built my current machine from random parts from different sources, I was able to pick and choose the components and the Ram and the hard drives (actually 2 separate 2 Tb M.2 drives) and a 14 TB RAID 5, with two Nvidia graphic cards. Win 10 to 11 was no big deal. It is pretty much impossible to build a custom Mac to fit your needs. Getting a Mac with 256 Gig of ram from the Apple store is basically impossible, and would cost a fortune. I just updated my motherboard BIOS a few days ago. Can one even update the BIOS on a Mac?

I have several mapping programs that simple REQUIRE Win 11 Pro.

Yea, Win 11 was quite different from 10, but it does not take long to get used to 11 and struggle with 10 on a different computer.

I have to use iTunes for my iPhone backup. There has never in the history of computers been a worse piece of software for the main market. It sucks big time, and it 100% illogical. I can't see my photos on it. The music is useless. It does back up my phone after I enter my iTunes password several times.

Win 11 has been bullet proof. I have never seen the blue screen of death, or had a crash. It just works for me. And I can swap components in the future if I want.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by JackDidley

I am sort of a cheapskate when it comes to computers. No Mac for me. I am actually using 2 identical Latitude E6510s from 2011. 8 gigs of RAM and 250 gig SSDs. I bought them used. They are solid and have taken abuse.

I work in IT, and spend a fair amount of time on my computer when I'm not working, so I could not work on an underpowered machine without going crazy. I tend to buy a decently high end machine (without going top-o-the-line) and then hang on to that machine for many years (8-12, probably).

I don't, and most folks don't need a highly specialized, highly powered machine to run a highly compute intensive business like Glenn. It would surely be overkill for 99.999% of the population. Hell, most folks probably don't need the machine that I have and it's probably 5-6 years old. But then my machine would also be barely adequate or inadequate to play most modern games due to the lack of high end graphics.

[Rot 911]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I have to use iTunes for my iPhone backup. There has never in the history of computers been a worse piece of software for the main market. It sucks big time, and it 100% illogical. I can't see my photos on it. The music is useless. It does back up my phone after I enter my iTunes password several times.

Why don’t you just do automatic back ups to the cloud? easy to set up and painless to do. I don’t think I’ve used iTunes in 10 years.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Rot 911

Why don’t you just do automatic back ups to the cloud? easy to set up and painless to do. I don’t think I’ve used iTunes in 10 years.

I sync some of my stuff to the cloud, but not everything. Even if I wanted to sync everything to the cloud, I don't have space without paying someone for their cloud space, and I don't want to pay for more space.

[Rot 911]

Steve, I was just responding to Glenn as he was referring to the pain in the butt backing up his phone to iTunes. Apple has its own iCloud for backing up and for just $.99 you can add another 50 GB of storage. That ends up being plenty for backing up your phone.

As for windows 11, I’ve had it for a number of years and it’s decent to use. The only thing I dislike about it is that it tends to update on a weekly basis and if you miss doing an update over a week or so, you end up wasting half a day doing updates.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Win 11 has been bullet proof. I have never seen the blue screen of death, or had a crash..

Let me start off with a few years of MSFS2020 experience..

Or the wrong X page...at least a dozen of those resulted in restarts.
Task Manager is always below fifty percent hardware capability.
It's just so random

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Rot 911

Why don’t you just do automatic back ups to the cloud? easy to set up and painless to do. I don’t think I’ve used iTunes in 10 years.

I have 128 Gig of stuff on my 256 Gig phone. They would charge me for that much storage, and Apple, Microsoft, the FBI, the IRS, dozens of other companies have been hacked. I have never been hacked. I use One Drive for my company, but only sending huge mapping projects to clients from my computer. No one would be interested in a 20 Gig map of a some property they have nothing to do with, and only someone with mapping software can open it anyway.

[Bill Douglas]

[JackDidley]

I ended up just loading Linux Mint on one laptop and W11 on the other. Not sure which one will get the most use.
I mostly just use them for surfing the forums, buying and selling stuff. No real computing so I need minimal hardware. Both are fine so far. I will say Brave browser is the best change Ive made so far.