Unfortunately you can't make anyone get better , doesn't matter if the addiction is alcohol/drugs/porn or a thousand other things . The person with the addiction has to make up his/her mind that they need help . Until that happens success rate of " getting better " will be slim . This is a horrible tragedy but it happens quite often in society .

The idea of letting the mentally ill on the streets and closing state run mental institutions is largely to blame for much of this... that was an important "safety net" that at one time added an extra barrier between us and the violent mental cases.
It was one of the few instances of government health care that ill support in the present.
If there was a referendum that gave us the choice of state run asylums or food stamps, id pick the asylum, hands down.

I have nothing to say about R.R.

That’s a pleasant change.

https://nypost.com/2025/12/15/us-news/inside-rob-nick-reiners-fight-at-conan-obriens-christmas-party-that-left-parents-terrified-before-murders/

https://nypost.com/2025/12/15/us-news/nick-reiner-had-had-reputation-for-violence-before-allegedly-killing-dad-rob-and-mom-michele-pals/

Man, my heart goes out to the kids and family I cannot imagine what it would be like to find your parents brutally murdered and know that your own brother did it!!! I may not have agreed with his politics either but that doesn't matter. These were people, human beings and they are gone now. Mr Reiner made some great movies, "This Is Spinal Tap" will always be one of my favorites. Rest in Peace Rob and Michele.

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But for a showing or two on TCM, Enter Laughing seems to have dropped from sight. TCM’s note on the film might make you want to track it down:

Carl Reiner’s roman à clef about a Jewish kid from the Bronx disappointing his parents by choosing show business instead of pharmacy school had a successful run on Broadway after being adapted for the stage, with Alan Arkin playing the lead. But when it came time to cast the film version, Arkin was deemed too old to play the teenage hero.After casting unknown Puerto Rican actor Reni Santoni, Reiner wooed Shelley Winters, Michael J. Pollard, Don Rickles, and Jose Ferrer to round out the cast of his directorial debut. Shot in the Bronx on a shoestring in 32 days, it’s a treat to see this cast stretch beyond type — Jose Ferrer as a flamboyant impresario? Shelley Winters as a Jewish mother? — but especially so for Elaine May, who flexes creative muscles never seen before as a wiggly, breathy vamp keen on this new kid. Watch for a beardless Rob Reiner in his first movie role, too.


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Interesting- I can't find Enter Laughing at all. I suspect it'll appear due to Rob's death. The movie appears uneven and I don't suspect time passing since 1967 has helped, but I will watch it as soon as I can find it. There's quite a cast there.

https://watch.plex.tv/movie/enter-laughing

He'll be missed for sure- what a unimaginable tragedy. I wish him and his wife's families well, but they will never be.

How do you deal with a kid, now 30+ adult, who's brain has likely been permanently altered by drug use and was mentally ill to start with? You have money, means, friends in high places, etc. but nothing worked for this kid. So sad that his parents had to pay the ultimate price. RIP Mr. and Mrs. Reiner.

we were glued to the set during the All in the Family days. Loved that show even as a wee tot.

I knew he had done Princess Bride and Sleepless in Seattle but didn't know he had made so many other great great movies.

As someone in a family with an alcoholic and many times violent personality, I understand a little of what he and his wife were going through because the despair in these kinds of family dynamics never subsides. At least he and his wife have peace now and forever. We are all a little less with your leaving, godspeed and rest in peace, both of you.

Right on, brother. I think the TV shows were WAY better back then, Shaun.

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Mike and Gloria (Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers) are moving to California and they say a heartfelt goodbye to the Bunkers (Carroll O' Connor and Jean Stapleton).

From Season 8, Episode 24 'The Stivics Go West' - Saying goodbye to Mike and Gloria proves traumatic for the Bunkers. Before they leave for their new life in California, Mike and Gloria share some long-hidden feelings, confused tears, and much, much more with Archie and Edith.

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You never know what is going on with people. I think being famous would suck, worse to be the scion of a famous person even. Purposeless generation Shaun was thinking of, except with plenty of dough.

Plenty of dough is probably not a good thing for a young person, maybe for most young people even