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GH85Carrera 05-01-2012 10:34 AM

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GH85Carrera 05-01-2012 10:38 AM

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Racerbvd 05-01-2012 11:16 AM

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RoadRaceJosh 05-01-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6722697)
Nice 1st post on the forum..

but i don't think anybody here was saying it was a 2 stroke anyway.
And as far as bottom end vacuum leaks, i don't think there really is such a thing.. a vacuum leak is a vacuum leak.. a crank case technically should(doesn't have to be) not be vacuum ..

The only reason it typically would be vacuum, is for enviromental reasons, because those require the crankcase breather to vent into the intake..
and it typically does that through the vacuum plumbing.. And that's what causes the crankcase to have vacuum..


Any air escaping in the crank when it should not, will affect the vacuum system.
Which might cause unmetered air to go into the intake, and cause a lean running condition..

That has nothing to do with 2 stroke at all..

Oops, blew the rule on my first post! Semi-random picture below!

With 2-strokes the air/fuel/oil mix travel through the crankcase. If you get a leak in the crankcase (bad crank seals are a common culprit) it will lean out the mixture and then you can melt down a piston. I believe this is why sammyg2 made the comment: "Lemme guess, had a bottom end vacuum leak that caused it to run lean?" The valve reliefs in the surviving piston shows it's no 2-stroke, however.

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svandamme 05-01-2012 11:26 AM

Well i explained in my post that vacuum leak can cause lean running 4 stroke engines , and when a high comp 4 stroke engine runs lean, it can cause among other things, detonation.

Again, nobody said anything about 2 strokers, and the comment about vacuum in the bottom end did not automatically imply 2 strokes either because the crank breather ties into the vacuum system of most 4 stroke FI engines.

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GH85Carrera 05-01-2012 11:32 AM

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GH85Carrera 05-01-2012 11:33 AM

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McLovin 05-01-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 6718435)

Damn, sorry to see Valerie has put the weight back on.

Truly random:

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GH85Carrera 05-01-2012 11:42 AM

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GH85Carrera 05-01-2012 11:43 AM

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GH85Carrera 05-01-2012 11:43 AM

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RoadRaceJosh 05-01-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6722815)
Well i explained in my post that vacuum leak can cause lean running 4 stroke engines , and when a high comp 4 stroke engine runs lean, it can cause among other things, detonation.

An intake tract leak on a 4-stroke will cause lean running, but a bottom end vacuum leak? That's 2-stroke territory because there is little to no vacuum in most all 4-stroke crankcases as most 4-strokes have the crankcase open to the atmosphere through the breather. Most 4-strokes use a PCV valve to prevent an excess of air flowing into the intake tract. I keep saying most because there are exceptions. Like the road draft tube on my old Studebaker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6722815)
Again, nobody said anything about 2 strokers, and the comment about vacuum in the bottom end did not automatically imply 2 strokes either because the crank breather ties into the vacuum system of most 4 stroke FI engines.

The crankcase breather is almost always open to the atmosphere through the air box. Crankcase vapors in excess of what the PCV valve can handle flow through the breather and into the intake upstream of the throttle. There is no vacuum upstream of the throttle aside from any filter and ducting restrictions.

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URY914 05-01-2012 12:43 PM

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sammyg2 05-01-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadRaceJosh (Post 6722972)
An intake tract leak on a 4-stroke will cause lean running, but a bottom end vacuum leak? That's 2-stroke territory because there is little to no vacuum in most all 4-stroke crankcases as most 4-strokes have the crankcase open to the atmosphere through the breather. Most 4-strokes use a PCV valve to prevent an excess of air flowing into the intake tract. I keep saying most because there are exceptions. Like the road draft tube on my old Studebaker.



The crankcase breather is almost always open to the atmosphere through the air box. Crankcase vapors in excess of what the PCV valve can handle flow through the breather and into the intake upstream of the throttle. There is no vacuum upstream of the throttle aside from any filter and ducting restrictions.

Correct-a-mundo, when I first saw it I thought it was a two stroke engine, sea-do or yamahamer or such.
I didn't look close enough to see the indentations in the piston for the valves to id it as a 4 stroker.

In my OP I was referring to the bottom end leak of death on a two stroke.
A regular two stroke engine has to be sealed on the bottom end to withstand at least a 2 psig pressure test, otherwise it can suck in air on every intake stroke and lean out and sieze up.


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sammyg2 05-01-2012 02:19 PM

2 stroke yammer:

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URY914 05-01-2012 04:11 PM

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Oh Haha 05-01-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 6723392)

that is too cool!!

If I were lame enough to actually put silly figures on my car I would use that one.:p

Racerbvd 05-01-2012 04:53 PM

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porsche930dude 05-01-2012 05:07 PM

i hate the stic figure stickers! but i like this one
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SoCal911T 05-01-2012 05:41 PM

This is the sticker on my beater.

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