Cigars...

[jose_marti]

Had my first cigar in like two months tonight and it couldn't have been better. Sitting around talking with my friends, playing chess and enjoying a CAO camaroon. Wonderful. I've been trying not to get into cigars mainly because i don't have the expenses to pay for it, but does any one have any suggestions.

Oh yah, one more question, if you could sit down and have a glass of bourbon/scotch/gin/whiskey, and a cigar with anyone, alive or dead who would it be?

A lot of people say Orson Wells, or Churchill, but I'd take the revolutionary route and sit down with Che after a hard day of working in the fields.

[needapcar]

cao's are good. i dont think ive ever had a camaroon. i think i would smoke with either al pacino or frank white.

[tabs]

Hey Cigar Dude....If you want to cut expenses try finding seconds from the Major Labels....you can buy them for a fraction of what the Majors do....

Private Stock....Avao/Davidoff seconds $2- $4...each

Cohiba Seconds (Dominican) ...Churchills for $1.16 ea

Domicon Bundles ....Presidentes for $1.60 ea

All the above are long filler and handmade...

Then You can try the knock offs that JR Cigars sells...

Another wayt to go is through the discount mail order cigar dealers...Jr's , Thompsons....very are all deep discounters .

So you can enjoy some mighty fine cigars at relativily bargin prices...and there is no need to be a Yuppie and pay through the nose for something you enjoy...

[Erakad]

I've got to make a couple of choices....first choice would be Douglas McArthur...smart guy, interesting life, huge world impact. I think he'd have a lot to say. Second, Thomas Jefferson. The opportunity to speak with one of our founding fathers (and arguable one of the brightest), and compare their intent for our nation to how we've turned out...well, it'd be to interesting to pass up.

[tabs]

Jefferson, Franklin or Abe Lincoln...my choich would be Lincoln.

Douglas McArthur was a narcissist....everything was done to promote one thing his image..you might say he was the Madona of his time...

I once talked to a WW2 vet who watched McArthur come ashore in the Philiphines....he did it over and over until he felt the news cameras got it right...

[Erakad]

A narcissist perhaps, but just to talk about what compelled him for the amphibious assualt at Inchon, why he screwed up in PI, what went through his mind when he challenged Truman...on and on. Quote one author:

Douglas MacArthur was, to paraphrase Charles Dickens, the best of generals and the worst of generals. At his best, in both World War II (q.v) and the Korean War, he showed a mastery of the operational art unmatched by any other American general in the twentieth century. At his worst, he showed appalling lapses of strategic judgment and a disturbing lack of propriety in his relationship with the national command authority.

I think if you question the troops on their generals, you'll get a variety of opinions. Gen Franks...there's a case, and need we get into Wesley Clarke.... Still, to read MacArthur's farewell address to the corp at West Point...well, I think I'll forgive his narcissist tendencies.

My son had another interesting one to talk with -- Theador Roosevelt.

[adamred]

Jose Marti- nice screen name for a cigar guy....

I second tabs, JR's ultimates are a really high quality cigar for a fraction of the cost....

[Tishabet]

adamred,
The cigars Tabs is referencing are JR Alternates, which I think are only mediocre. A bundle of corona size will cost you in the area of $25.
JR Ultimates, on the other hand, are GREAT cigars. I'm a huge fan of the petit corona in XX as well as the cabinet belicosos.

[adamred]

Yeah Grant you're definitely right...even so the ultimates are a steal compared to a "branded" cigar....the wrappers on the ultimates are amazing as well. I have a JR's near my office and am amazed at how you can go from the greenest candela to the darkest maduro all in the same size!

[RickM]

Originally posted by tabs

Then You can try the knock offs that JR Cigars sells...

JR knock offs are very good.... My neighbor owns the business .

[adamred]

Rick, is it still Lew?

[RickM]

Originally posted by adamred
Rick, is it still Lew?

Yes...great guy. Know him?

[Tishabet]

Lew Rothman? Met him several times.
Adam, are you near Paramus or whippany?

[adamred]

Only met Lew once, when I was at the Whippany shop, so that certainly doesn't qualify as knowing him...I used to read the catalogs about as intensely as "Excellence."

Maybe we could use the Whippany shop as a start and finish point or a winter meeting point for the next NY/NJ/CT fun run, with a tour/tasting from Lew himself, now that would be really cool!

Grant, I'm pretty close to Whippany. I used to be so close we would go for lunch every Friday. Now it is a bit further....

[Tishabet]

Adam,
I belong to a cigar club that would have an annula summer event at the whip location. We'd come in from all over the country (and a few from across the pond) and take over for a full day. There would be maybe 80 of us and Lew and his wife would host the whole shebang. That's one hell of a walk-in humidor, isn't it? Last time I was there I went digging into a huge pile of JR ultimates and managed to get a box of teh petite Cetro in XX (Oscuro) with a box date from '97!

[RickM]

Excellent start/end point for a cruise.
As you probably know he has had a couple of car shows at his Whippany shop. He gets quite the crowd.

[RickM]

Originally posted by Tshabet
That's one hell of a walk-in humidor, isn't it?

Largest in the world.

[adamred]

Next to the front seat of my 911, the humidor at the Whip location is one of my favorite places to be....I was just describing it to someone the other day and simply nothing can be said that can represent what you experience there....

I used to go so much the waitress in the lounge would bring our orders without ever handing us a menu....

[adamred]

I'm feeling a gathering coming on, and I bet we could drag Grant kicking and screaming from MA....

Cigars and P-cars united....

[jose_marti]

anyone been to tdunhill to see churchills basement where he had the vaults of cigars, or to the shop there?