Karl Rove

[techweenie]

Originally posted by 928ram
Depending on your POV or opinion, I suppose it could be said that Wilson lied about what he found in Niger; with the info I have, I'm of the opinion that he just plain didn't do the job he was sent there for. However, it has been reported that his own testimony to the 9/11 commission refuted his previous claims that there was no evidence that Saddam was trying to aquire the uranium from Niger; if that's the case, then he did indeed lie.

Didnt' I read that before the Gulf war, some officials from Iraq had asked Niger about yellowcake? In any case, a question that was asked 15 years before doesn't constitute an "imminent threat" by any measure. And it doesn't support the Bush administration claim "Saddam is trying to buy uranium." In fact, I can find no support for that claim anywhere outside wacko right wing pundits.

[Moneyguy1]

This is just going to be another of these "well, he ACTUALLY didn't really break the law" sort of thing, just like every other administration has had to do, circle the wagons and wait for the savages to tire and go away. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

Just like the Intelligence DIrector who was pilloried and labeled "a digruntled employee", so it is with Wilson, even though those who make that kind of statement do not know these people but seem willing to judge on little or no evidence. Let's see what the Grand Jury has to say before we all go ballistic over what may be nothing.

[Bleyseng]

yeah, it will end up another one of those GOP if you "have enough smoke no one will be able to see whats on fire" jobs.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by Bleyseng
yeah, it will end up another one of those GOP if you "have enough smoke no one will be able to see whats on fire" jobs.

You want to see an example of that right here? Look at fint's thread trying to ascribe an Iraq-al Quaeda link. Thousands of words that all boil down to 'we found one peasant in the Iraq army who joined the Taliban and then al Quaeda.' He's hoping you'll grade his paper on weight, not content.

Oh, and of course, fint is now channeling some righty apologist claiming Wilson and Plame were "traitors.' I bet by the end of this arc of logic, it will be the entire left end of the political spectum that's to blame. As always.

[juanbenae]

what i want to know is how is bush going to reward him for what ol' karls accomplished?

let's review-

condi- memos from the CIA cross her desk stating prior to 9/11 that OBL was intent on hitting america. she gets bumped up to NSA after colin leaves the admin because he no longer wants to be linked with these yeah-whos.

tenent- medal of freedom or some BS W came up with after he got the HLS dept off the ground. yeah right! at least he could sing.

anyone say chief justice "hot-karl" rove?

[Moneyguy1]

Latest poll from AOL (July 13)

Should Rove be fired? Yes 72%

Will anything happen? No 57%

[techweenie]

"Talking points were e-mailed to 400 conservative talk show hosts today. Losts of weird claims: Rove was a 'whistleblower.' Wilson lied about Cheney sending him to Niger.

Just a lot of smoke. The most telling thing was that Bush sounded like he was cutting Rove loose today.

AAR was having a field day with all this.

[fintstone]

You guys are funny! Every time you guys make up/misrepresent someihing about the administration that seems to be getting a little traction (before the true facts are known) you go into a feeding frenzy. The fact that noone is posting much argument is not because your posts are making a particulary good argument, but that you post the same things over and over...on thread after thread,,,and all have been answered or ignored out of disgust. One can really tell how desperate you are when you start posting polls (like before the last election) from...of all places..AOL, and material from sources like Wikipedia..LOL
If you were really as smart as you think, you would realize that circustances make it clear that although Cooper did a good job of setting Rove up, what he quoted Rove as saying is really not something that will make much of a case. Clearly, Miller is the one to watch...because Miller went to jail as not to reveal sources. Since Rove encouraged/allowed releasing anything he said...that must mean that the "real" deepthroat must be someone else. Sheeesh.

[lendaddy]

Hillarious,

Live it up boys


P.S. I still don't understand why they don't ask Shaun.....he already knows what happened, he could save the country alot of time and money

[fintstone]

Originally posted by techweenie
You want to see an example of that right here? Look at fint's thread trying to ascribe an Iraq-al Quaeda link. Thousands of words that all boil down to 'we found one peasant in the Iraq army who joined the Taliban and then al Quaeda.' He's hoping you'll grade his paper on weight, not content.
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Now I understand...it is some kind of reading comprehension problem, right?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

RE: talking points, I also heard a Republican congressman on NPR tonight make the point that the "outing" would have be done "maliciously" and proven as such to be breaking the law on outing covert CIA agents. This of course is a lie, but it's out in the public.


Bill Clinton was a pretty good liar, but nothing compared to today's Right machine. You've got to give them credit for being the most organized, unified, automatons in history. It is really impressive how they can take a situation that doesn't favor their agenda and react so viciously against it.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Flint, I'm going to be in Vegas Aug. 28 through Sept. 2.

When are you free to get together for dinner or something?

[fintstone]

Originally posted by techweenie
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Oh, and of course, fint is now channeling some righty apologist claiming Wilson and Plame were "traitors.' I bet by the end of this arc of logic, it will be the entire left end of the political spectum that's to blame. As always.

I know, I know..it is the typical liberal mantra...no matter what they did to hurt the country...it is ok because their motives (to bring down their president) were good (liberal). Such rationalization!

[lendaddy]

Ok, sarcasm off.


What do you have to disprove the following:

Everyone knew she worked at the CIA, and Rove did not know she was covert as opposed to "management/analyst" when he said "his wife sent him".

I am honestly curious, why is this not likely?

[lendaddy]

And one more.....

If this was supposedly "revenge" on Roves part, one would have to ask "what damage is he hoping to inflict"?

Since all info I've seen is that she was out of the undercover game for like 5 years and not headed back.........what was the motive or malice? To make her famous in her retirement?

Where's the logic?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by lendaddy


P.S. I still don't understand why they don't ask Shaun.....he already knows what happened, he could save the country alot of time and money

I've given my testimony, you'll have to wait until the investigation is over before I can comment.

FYI, "a lot" is 2 words. not sure if a typo or spelling, like I type wtih quite a lot.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
RE: talking points, I also heard a Republican congressman on NPR tonight make the point that the "outing" would have be done "maliciously" and proven as such to be breaking the law on outing covert CIA agents. This of course is a lie.
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Face it, the law is pretty clear. There is no real case that can be made against Rove with the information that has been produced so far. That is why liberals are working as hard/fast as they can to try to ruin his reputation.
Why do liberals interpret the force of the law/constitution do not apply to Democrats and the protections of the law/constitution do not apply to Republicans?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by fintstone
Face it, the law is pretty clear. There is no real case that can be made against Rove with the information that has been produced so far. That is why liberals are working as hard/fast as they can to try to ruin his reputation.
Why do liberals interpret the force of the law/constitution do not apply to Democrats and the protections of the law/constitution do not apply to Republicans?

Why are Republicans lying about the law?

When do you want to get together when I am in Vegas.

My treat of course!

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa


FYI, "a lot" is 2 words. not sure if a typo or spelling, like I type wtih quite a lot.

In my alternate right-wing "Rovian" universe we have changed it to one word, efficiency don't you know

[fintstone]

The law is clear. I have not yet seen anyone even post a liberal source showing that she actually was a covert operative (by definition) or that Rove knew....much less anything to show intent.