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Guns?
Yes? No? What kind?
I own a few. I'm not some gun nut. Just your everyday Porsche driving heavily armed lunatic with a minor meth problem. |
Good idea we haven't had a gun thread this week:p
I have a Hammerli 208 for target shooting and Sig 232 for carry and of course my chicken gun CO2 Beretta Xtreme. My daughter has a FAS 602 (my husband, Armando bought this for himself but had it expropriated) for target shooting and carries a 32 acp Beretta model 70. Armando usually carries a Sig 239, has another Hammerli 208 for target shooting, he also has a Sig 210 in 7.65 para, a Colt 1911 in 45HP, S&W 629 and a selection of rifles and shotguns. We also have some airguns. |
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Kimber .45 auto has been my favourite for years. Shot a Ruger #1 for a long time chambered in .45-70. Really got everyone's attention at the range.
For home defence a shotgun is hard to beat... JoeA |
I've just got this thing that makes the "shotgun chambering a round" noise for the house, it works just as good as the real thing and I can't use it to blow my brains out after reading Fintstone's posts here.
They sell them at Walmart. |
Glock 19, P08 Luger, Ruger single-action, shotgun, lever-action rifle, and some 22s.
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Oh very well, here we go again: Beretta 1934, Smith & Wesson 469, Detonics Scoremaster 45 acp, Sig 210, Hammerli 208 as well as lots of airguns. Favourite? changes with my mood, today it's the Detonics. |
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sig 226. w/hydroshoks with me in cali. in texas, weatherby Mark IV .257 some cheapo winchester, 30.06 beretta cittori O/U 12 guage kliengunterh O/U 12 guage remington 1100 12 guage for ducks consider selling both rifles to consolidate into a .300 WSM. maybe a cookie cutter remington 700, or go high end with a kimber rifle. |
S&W 1911
SA 1911 "loaded" Colt 1911 series 80 Colt 1911 1953 S&W 642 for 2 |
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Browning Hi-Power, with a few custom touches.
Browning Challenger .22 target pistol (Belgium made) Remington 12 gauge pump Remington model 722 in .257 Roberts Caliber Remington "nylon 66" .22 semi auto Remington "targetmaster" single shot .22 (my first rifle, a gift from dad) Ruger model 77 in 7mm Remington Mag. caliber Ruger mini-14, stainless Ruger "security 6" .357 Magnum M-1 Garand, unfired, International Harvester Springfield '03, 30-06, Sporterized a wee bit but still with military stock, dad's old deer & elk Rifle Winchester Model 94, pre '64, 30-30 caliber And then some old antique octagon barrel stuff that I'd be afraid to shoot...most of them black powder cartridge firearms that belonged to my grandfather and great-grandfather. I'm sure I'm forgetting some... |
Guns...I don't need no stinkin guns....
I have never been much on the Modern Double Action Autos like the SIG/Sauer or the Berretas etc...I prefer the venerable Colt 1911's....and even the wheel guns...by Smith and Colt In 45's I especially like the PRE Series 70's National Matches...and the best ones of all are the PRE WAR NM's...and going along in that vein how bout the S&W Registered Magnums and the Big Colt New Service Targets...and Shootin Masters Another interesting varient are the Colt King Super Targets...The King Gun Sight Co...was located in Frisco before the big one.. where they customized both Colts and Smiths for better accuracy.. On the Supers they would install a vent rib with a small metal refelector just in back of the front sight to illuminate it... they could install an off set hammer called the "King Cockeyed" hammer and do action jobs....Colt OFFicers Models were popular canidates for customization... As far as rifles go Griffin and Howe Baby is it for American rifles then there are a host of others like AO Neidner and Sedgley who built QUALITY....Then there iis the venerable English gun makers like Rigby...who used Mauser Actions....if you like European there is Manlicher Scheoneauer...with there glassy smooth butterknife bolts.... In SHotguns there is no better in America than Parker and LC Smith...some might say Fox....with their Box Locks...for home defence in my opinion there is nothing better than a Knuckle Buster Winchester 97 riot gun....loaded with Double 0 Buck... For Target Work one really need not look any farther than Springfield Arsenal...they built beautiful International Match Rifles, NM's in both the 1903'S AND Garands and even 22 LR known as the Model 1922....Winchester later created the Model 52 Targets and even Remington came out with their Model 37's to compete... As for European Military...nothing is better then a Mauser 98K..especially the Pre War ones with the Mauser Banners....the best Mauser Sniper ever built were the Swedish ones firing the flat trajectory 6.5 X 55 round....a really interesstin varient on the 98's was called the Service Mans Target rifle firing the popular German Target Round the 8.15 X 46 round....some of them even had unit or group markings on them... While speking about German Military weapons you can't forget the Lugers....PO8's the Navys and Artillerys...it is now legal to own shoulder stocks with the Artilleries as they are curio and Relics....I especially like the Mauser S42 Lugers with chamber dates....then there is the Mauser Model 96 better known as Broom Handles it came in both 30 Mauser and 9MM aka Red Nine... Then theri are the Walther Products....the PP's and P38's the most desirable of the P38's is the HP...commercial production....and the SIG P210-6 has got to be the best built 9MM ever...like a rock Now if you wana talk about antiques....one of the hot areas are Civil War and Indian War period Carbines....Smith, Sharps and Springfield Trapdoors...to mention a few....but the hotest area of US Military Collecting is anything to do with Custers Last Stand you can even buy a house in CA with the amount of money some of the stuff is bringing.....Then we come to a fascinating area...the Target Rifles of the 19th Century..where the English, Irish, Australian and American Teams competeted with each other in 1000 yard matches...The Anglo teams prefered Muzzleloading Rifles by Gibbs, Whitworth and others built by Gunmakers throughout the British Isles..some of those Co's like Dickson are still in Business today..while the US Teams Used Single Shot Breech Loaders most notably Sharps Rifles....as a matter of fact the Sharps Model 1878 Long Range was used until the turn of the century competivily, another popular American Breech loader was the Winchester Model 1885 Highwalls and Lowwalls...some of those rifles really had super delux features..... however it is not well known that the Muzzleloaders were as accurate at longrange shooting as the Modern Bench Rest Rifles...it seemed that there were 100's if not 1000's of American gunmakers producing quality rifles...a couple being Wm Lawerence of MA and JH Rector..of NY.... Then one can even go back a step further in history and start Talking about Pennslyvania Long Rifles but I'll save that for another day... |
Yep, I have more than a few;)
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I have a Beretta 92FS for target shooting and a Remington 1187 for hunting...
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one gun for shark'en, one gun for the range, and one gun for the RR train.
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Ruger P345 with Hydra-Shoks sits in the glovebox.
Para 14-45 with some custom touches for target shooting. Old vintage 1911 Mil. issue (unsure of exact year) for looking at Ruger 10-22 for plinking Mossberg 550 for the house ;) |
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Glock 9mm model 19 compact for home protection, Ruger Mini 14 .223 Stainless Steel for livestock protection, Ruger .22 stainless steel 10/22, for ground squirrels, also a form of livestock protection.
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Used to have all sorts of exotics- AR15, FN-FAL, HK (91,93,mp5), Galil, AK, SKS, plus WWII era rifles. Had to sell to pay bills while in school and then I had to grow up... now that the assnine ban is over, I'm thinking about saving my pennies for a FAL... gonna be a long time before I can afford it....
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Anyone have a Mauser broomhandle? If I could get another pistol now, that would be the one.
I used to work with a guy who collected Broomhandles, he had around 100 of them, an FFL, he'd send and receive Broomhandles in the mail all the time and would bring them in to office to show me. My favorite was the full auto version, called a "Schnell-something". I had a chance to buy an absolutely mint Broomhandle, with shoulder stock/holster, from him, but $500 seemed too high, this was in 1994 or so. I still don't know if I should have bought it or not. Edit: A quick search suggests a typical Broomhandle in mint (95%-ish) is worth up to $1,000, but that values vary widely by the specific model and condition. Well, that wouldn't have been a particularly good investment. Especially since I'd have shot it frequently and enthusiastically. |
OK, not to Hijack the thread, but let's talk caliber...
Texas is a Concealed carry state. I'm looking for something compact, reliable, with decent stopping power. I'm ok with a 2 finger grip and with only 6 shots. But I'd like to make them count. I'm thinking .40. Thoughts? Glock 27 or a Glock 36 (In .45) |
I'm interested in this too. THere seem to be some new calibers lately. For example I see there is now a "GAP" caliber specific to Glocks. What's all that about?
Anyone who knows, please also say something about bullet types? Are hollow-points the best for stopping power? When I shot a lot, I shot a lot, so I just used cheap reloads. Quote:
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This has been discussed adnauseum in gun circles, but it's hard to argue with .45 .Big and slow but plenty of whallop.
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Anyone have anything to say about the Springfield XD pistols?
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My step father, ex-CIA and retired Lt Col in the Green Berets during Vietnam, used to carry a Walther PPK in .380. I asked him why not a .45 or even a 9mm. His response "son, there aren't too many elephants out there ..." Moral? Get something that you could and would carry and conceal easily, not some super duper big bullet rig that will stay in your safe with your big bullets. I like PPK sized pistols, you should also check out the Kahr PM series. Much slimmer than the Glock and comes in 9mm and 40 S&W. alf |
If you are mainly interested in protecting your family in a house, a 12 gauge with a powerful flashlight mounted on it and loaded with birdshot is good. With this, there is not much chance of a bullet going through the drywall and killing an innocent bysleeper. Also, unless you are one who wakes up real quick with his full faculties including great night vision, the flashlight and the spread of the birdshot makes it hard to miss. Also, the light will help eliminate accidental shootings of your kid whojust got up to get some water.There are legal shotguns with short barrels just for this purpose.You relly need to understand the legal ramifications also. No shooting in the back as the bad guy is running away etc. Generally he must present a viable threat. It is good practice to a least give them a momentary chance to surrender although this is rarely possible in a home invasion.Somebody who is willing to enter an occupied house is generally desperate and stupid anyway. It would be much safer for the crook in England where the citizens can't have guns.
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Rifles are black powder for the most part, mostly breach loaders but some muzzle loaders strictly for hunting. Some more modern smokeless classics; M70's in 6.5 x 55 and .375 H&H, #1's in .220 Swift and .458.
Mostly single action revolvers, but one 1911 and one DA just for good measure. Many are black powder, all shoot nothing but my own cast bullets. On self defense, big bore guns are great in the night stand but tend to stay there even if you have a CCW. Get something you can carry every day, regardless of your attire. If you have to dress appropriately just to hide a gun, pretty soon you won't want to do that and it will stay home. Go ahead and carry the .45 when you are in a suit or a jacket, but have something else you can carry in shorts and a tee shirt. |
Sorry it took me so long......
Not many guns at this point actually. A couple shot guns for hunting (been a loooonnnnnnggg time). An 8mm Mauser I use for Deer Hunting. Not using it again. The thing is a god damn cannon. I want a lighter caliber, at least for hunting in the midwest (typically northern/western Michigan). Oh yes....and my trusty Norinco MAK90 (Chinese AK). Well made rifle. Simple and sturdy, like and AK should be. @Jeff, I have been looking at getting a muzzle loader. Strictly for pleasure shooting. Any recommendations on company, caliber? |
Oh yeah, any one here have an HK pistol? I shot one and was loving it. Curious about reliability.
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sig sauer p226 9mm. vash its a wonderful gun i must agree.
walther ppk 7.62mm browning 12g over under ruger 10/22 with scope for plinking at the grandparents two browning lever action 22's for plinking two colt python .44 magnums, random gift from godfather benelli 10 guage pump glock .40cal on order remington 700 bolt action left handed .300 super mangum custom barrell, harris bipod, scope undecided. at springfield armory now for customizing. none of these are for carry or home protection. they are all at my grandparents ranch locked up nice and tight. for home protection i have my baseball bat and a tonto blade knife if needed. i live in white suburbia and we have had no problems on my block in the past 15 years. |
Colt 44 mags are called Anacondas....NOT PYTHONS....
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Colt 1911 (1917)
Colt 1903 .32 (1927) Colt 1903 .32 (1932) with mods. My carry Colt 1908 .380 (1921) Colt 1908 .25 (1923) Walther PPKS .380 (P.O.S.) won't put my life on it. Lefever 12 ga SXS (1924) |
A few of mine. Wilson Combat, Tactical Elite. Kimbers, Gold Match, Custom TLE, Eclipse Target II. Glocks, models 22, 21, 20, 17. Colts, Defender, Python. Smith and Wesson 625. Les Baers, Concept I, Premier II. I reload all my ammo with a Dillon 650 progressive press.
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Norwegian Krag in 6.5x55, 2 Swedish Mausers (Rifle and Carbine) 6.5x55, 3 Lefever side by sides 10,16 and 20 gauge, Fox AE 20 gauge, 2 Winchester 101's Pigeon grade 20 gauge, Browning 32 model 1903, Ruger 40sw, Winchester 1890's, Ruger Bearcat's, Browning semi-auto rifle 22lr, and assorted other stuff.
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Pythons made in the 1960's didn't have a Letter prefix or sufix..and those are collectable if they are NIB....
Another interesting Colt is the COlt 357 Mag it was only made form 1954 to 1960...it was basically a Colt TRooper but had a Python action...they only made 15000....I just sold one to a friend... Also Colt Diamondbacks which are a smaller framed version of the Python are nice revolvers....they came in 28 and 22....they are nice companion guns to the Python..I just traded a NIB one out for interiors on 2 safes I am buying... I also have a couple of Colt NM Gold Cups (Series 80) in stainless, one in 10MM and the other in 45 ACP....both were built in the early 90's and are NIB... |
Craigster, are those Lefevers "Uncle Dan's" ? I love my nitro.
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As far as compact, look into the CZ RAMI in .40. Compact, holds 8 rounds, and is very accurate. There is some talk about the RAMI having failure ot eject issues. I believe this is simply because of the lack of weight in the slide to eject the casing coupled with some shooters tendency to limp wrist. I had 1 failure to eject in over 500 rounds on about my 3 shot. I tightened up my wrist and never again. |
I think if most cops had a choice they would not carry the Glock. I have heard many accidental discharge stories about them. The CZ is a good choice. What model Berreta is carried by the U.S. Forces?
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Here is a good link talking about "real world" results with the GAP in .45 cal. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=145943&highlight=GAP Yes, hollow points have better stopping power, simply because they expand on impact. If the bad guy is wearing a vest, however, the hollow points are less likely to penetrate. The good thing about hollow points is you can use a more powerful cartrage and not have to worry as much with a through and through potentially hitting someone else. |
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