Cindy Sheehan Arrested

[Dan Mc Intyre]

Three Texas surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries they had performed.

One of them said, "I'm the best surgeon in Texas. A concert pianist lost 7 fingers in an accident, I reattached them, and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England!"

One of the others said. "That's nothing. A young man lost both arms and legs in an accident, I reattached them, and 2 years later he won a gold medal in field events in the Olympics!"

The third surgeon said, "You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a cowboy who was high on cocaine and alcohol rode a
horse head-on into a train traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the horse's a$$ and a cowboy hat. Now he's president of the United States!"

[stevepaa]

Other poll results released on Monday found public support for President George W. Bush's handling of the war in Iraq had dropped to 32 percent, with 67 percent saying they disapproved of the way Bush was handling the war.

Fifty-nine percent said they considered the 2003 invasion of Iraq as a mistake, and 63 percent said they wanted to see some or all US troops withdrawn from that country.

[kach22i]

Originally posted by Dan Mc Intyre
Just how successful can the campaign in Iraq be if there are now training camps operating out of a country we supposedly control? If the Afghanistan situation spins out of control, then what? More troops? More dead Americans? How long are you willing to blindly follow the lies and deceit before realizing this is a huge mess that you support? How much is too much for you?

Can't wait to read the one-line answers for these questions.

[Mulhollanddose]

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by stevepaa
Other poll results released on Monday found public support for President George W. Bush's handling of the war in Iraq had dropped to 32 percent, with 67 percent saying they disapproved of the way Bush was handling the war.

Fifty-nine percent said they considered the 2003 invasion of Iraq as a mistake, and 63 percent said they wanted to see some or all US troops withdrawn from that country.

If the media came out collectively and focused on negative news regarding Porsche, ignoring or spending significantly less time on the positive, what do you think it would do to Porsche sales?

What has happened since 2004, when Bush stomped Kerry?...Nothing...Nothing other than a concerted negative drum-beat by the leftist media (oh ya, and we are stomping terrorists and dismantling their ability to effectively organize)...As the media's sponsorship know that impressions are made and sales a byproduct of those impressions, the media itself knows that impressions are simply a manufacture and advertises based on their agenda.

This is what the polls reflect...The polls reflect a small portion, a negative portion, of the reality on the ground in Iraq.

Through the prism of war this war is more than successful. The media ignores this. The media ignores Iraqi sentiment (unless it fits their agenda). The media ignores military sentiment (unless it fits their agenda)...The media ignores the connections between al qaeda and Iraq...The media ignores the failures of the Clinton administration that allowed this to happen...The media ignores everything that does not suit their goals and objectives.

[Dan Mc Intyre]

Stomped Kerry? Seems to me it came down to Ohio.

And if the "liberal press" holds enough power to sway 76% of the population against the war in Iraq, why couldn't they sway just a few more voters in OH?

I only wish they had the power you suggest they possess.

Dan

[Mulhollanddose]

The only reason Kerry did as well as he did was because of media manipulation...It would have been an absolute blood bath if they were simply objective about their reporting.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by Dan Mc Intyre
I only wish they had the power you suggest they possess.

Dan

Dan, explain to me why advertisers spend big bucks for television advertising?...Is not the powerful medium of visual marketing effective in selling product?

Are you truly incapable of seeing this?

[Dan Mc Intyre]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Dan, explain to me why advertisers spend big bucks for television advertising?...Is not the powerful medium of visual marketing effective in selling product?

Are you truly incapable of seeing this?

Nope, I see it very clearly. It's not like W doesn't know about it too. Remember this classic?


And the power of the press, et. al., seems to have worked well enough on you. After all, you bought into this garbage.

[Mulhollanddose]

[Tim Hancock]

Originally posted by lendaddy
Exactly, odd that those that are considered "enlightened" are the ones whos lives most closely resemble that of cattle.

Tim, please tell me you're headed to the Vegas meet in March, I'm gonna need backup to stay sane?

I doubt I will be there. Maybe if it was not so far away. I doubt the discussions will concentrate on politics anyhow. More likely everyone will be trying to keep up with Tabs at the buffets!

[Racerbvd]

Originally posted by Tim Hancock
I doubt I will be there. Maybe if it was not so far away. I doubt the discussions will concentrate on politics anyhow. More likely everyone will be trying to keep up with Tabs at the buffets!

Whats up with Vegas?? I love Fat Burger

[Scott '96 993c2]

I love leftist liberals . . . they make me laugh. Kerry . . . what a baffoon. [img]http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads6/rennmisc731127920299.jpg[/img]

[Dan Mc Intyre]

Yea, here's your man, Scott. What a guy.

[Scott '96 993c2]

Originally posted by Dan Mc Intyre


Yea, here's your man, Scott. What a guy.

Dan -

No he's not, and I never said, GW was perfect . . . but my man . . . yes compared to these 2 snores the Dems put up against him . . .

Scott

[Racerbvd]

Originally posted by Dan Mc Intyre


Yea, here's your man, Scott. What a guy.

At least unlike the liberals who run this country into the ground, he has the Balls to stand up for what he believes in, something you liberals wouldn't understand, putting America 1st!!

[fintstone]

Even liberals are starting to speak out against Sheenan. ED Koch, like Zell Miller...are true liberals...but support their own country...what a dichotomy?

September 27, 2005
Speak Up, America
By Ed Koch

http://realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-9_27_05_EK.html

Cindy Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed in action in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has become the face of the anti-war movement in the United States. While her grief is understandable, her rhetoric is outrageous.

As the mother of a son killed in battle in Iraq, she originally struck a sympathetic chord, whether you supported the war in Iraq or opposed it. One cannot help but empathize with the agony of a bereaved mother. But that has changed over the months, and I believe that many Americans who viewed her with sympathy no longer do so.

Many Americans, myself included, now see her as a person who has come to enjoy the celebratory status accorded to her by the radicals on the extreme left who see America as the outlaw of the world. These radicals are not content to be constructive critics. They are bent on destroying this country.

Some of them want to turn America into a radical socialist state. Others hope to create a utopia. But regardless of their agendas, how can Cindy Sheehan's supporters defend her shameful statement, “This country is not worth dying for.”

While we recognize the U.S. is far from perfect, we are still head and shoulders above most other countries in the world in every respect. We remain the place where almost all others, given the chance, want to come to live. We continue to be the land of opportunity. We are the world’s leading economy.

Yes, there is far too great a difference between the incomes of the rich and the poor. Yes, we haven’t provided universal medical care as a matter of right for all of our citizens. Yes, minorities still suffer from discrimination socially, in housing, jobs and education. But we have a political system that for more than 200 years has allowed the electorate to work its will through regularly held elections. The government follows the will of the people, or it will no longer stay in power..

Those who rail against the United States have simply failed to sell their message to the public at large. They keep losing elections, local as well as national. Rather than broadening their appeal, they have narrowed it.

I supported and still support the war in Iraq, because our Congress and President had every right to rely on the advice of the CIA that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. On Sunday, September 25, 2005, Tim Russert of Meet The Press, summed up the situation prevailing before the war, saying, “…post September 11th, there was a fear of terrorism, an inability to know whether there were weapons of mass destruction by the public or by the media. George W. Bush said there were. Bill and Hillary Clinton said there were. The Russians, French and Germans, who opposed the war, said there were. Hans Blix of the UN said there were.”

Iraq had fought an eight-year war against Iran resulting in a million casualties, using poison gas against the Kurds, who were citizens of Iraq, and against the Iranian army. Yes, since the 2003 invasion, we have not found any present supplies of WMD. Nevertheless, based on advice from CIA counterparts advising every member nation of the United Nations Security Council, the Security Council, including Syria, adopted Resolution 1441 unanimously, finding Iraq had weapons of mass destruction for which it had not accounted and advising Iraq that failure to account was cause for war. Iraq refused to account for them to the U.N. We and our allies were right to invade, notwithstanding that other countries, terrified by the prospect of terrorism against them and tempted by corruption at the UN masterminded by Saddam Hussein through the Oil-For-Food program and lucrative vendor contracts with Hussein’s regime, did not join us.

As I have often stated, we have accomplished our original goal to prevent Iraq from threatening us or its regional neighbors. We should declare victory and get out. Yes, there probably will be a civil war among the Kurds, Sunni and Shia. If the UN -- which is still under a cloud because of the "Oil for Food" scandal -- decides to take a military role in Iraq to stop the civil war, we can join them at that time. Having accomplished our original mission, we should no longer be fulfilling the obligations of other countries, such as Germany and France which have had a free ride to date. Even in Afghanistan, the latter NATO allies, do not participate in combat duty, leaving that and the ensuing casualties for the U.S. to bear.

President George W. Bush summed up his views on Iraq when he stated, “When the Iraqi army stands up, the American Army will stand down.” I have low expectations of that happening in the immediate future. The estimates provided by the Bush administration on our getting out range from two to ten years. I do not believe we should wait that long, because of the casualties that would be involved. We should get out now, leaving the UN in charge. Although I believe that we should leave Iraq, I do not accept Sheehan’s outrageous statements.

Sheehan has joined those who rail against Israel, labeling Israel as the culprit with her comment, “You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine and the terrorism will stop.” Is that why Sunni and other terrorists have intentionally killed thousands of Shia civilians, labeling them, according to al-Zarkawi, infidels? Is that why Arab fundamentalists have declared war against all Christians and Jews?

According to Wikipedia, on August 15, 2005, on the Chris Matthews Show, Sheehan said, “she would not have responded differently to her son’s death had he died in Afghanistan rather than in Iraq. Sheehan argued that the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was ‘almost the same thing as the Iraq war.’” Remember, the UN Security Council authorized the invasion of Afghanistan and the war against the Taliban government.

Sheehan’s personal attacks on President Bush include comments in a speech on April 27, 2005, when she said, “We are not waging a war on terror in this country. We’re waging a war of terror. The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush.” Shameful.

According to Wikipedia, Sheehan wrote, “Casey was killed in the Global War of Terrorism waged on the world and its own citizens by the biggest terrorist outfit in the world: George and his destructive neo-con cabal.”

In an interview on CBS, Sheehan referred to the foreign insurgents coming into Iraq, who are condemned as terrorists even by other Arab countries, as well as the U.S. and Great Britain, as “freedom fighters.” On September 16, 2005, she said, “Pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq.” On the one hand, she and her supporters urge that the National Guard be brought back from Iraq to be used in New Orleans, and on the other hand, she condemns their use there now.

In addressing a veterans’ group on August 5, 2005, she demeaned herself with the use of truly outrageous remarks hurled at the President, describing him as “a lying bastard,” “that jerk,” “that filth spewer and war monger,” and “that evil maniac.”

Sheehan appeared this past weekend in Washington, D.C., leading the parade in a picture captured by the media that included Jesse Jackson, Julian Bond and Al Sharpton.

On Monday of this week, while Sheehan and her supporters were in Washington protesting at the White House against the presence of U.S. military forces in Iraq -- those forces there at the request of the democratically elected Iraqi government -- according to The New York Times, “Armed men dressed as police officers burst into a primary school in a town south of Baghdad on Monday, rounded up five Shiite teachers and their driver, marched them to an empty classroom and killed them, a police official said.” Sheehan believes them to be “freedom fighters.”

Of course, Sheehan has the right to state her opinion in a country she believes shouldn’t be defended. We who disagree with her statements, we who believe this country deserves our thanks, love and willingness to defend it, also have the right to express our views. Speak up, America.

Ed Koch is the former Mayor of New York City.

[VINMAN]

Cindy wanted to know why the media was devoting so much attention to the hurricanes and not her. To quote her, "its only wind and water".
Only wind and water?? Thousands of people have lost thier homes and everything they have,including family members, you self serving *****!

[skipdup]

Originally posted by VINMAN
Cindy wanted to know why the media was devoting so much attention to the hurricanes and not her. To quote her, "its only wind and water". Only wind and water?? Thousands of people have lost thier homes and everything they have,including family members, you self serving *****!

but.. but... SHE LOST HER SON!!!! She has the right to be covered. Damn that wind & water! Damn that military occupation of NO.

You're so insensitive vinman!

[VINMAN]

Originally posted by skipdup
but.. but... SHE LOST HER SON!!!! She has the right to be covered. Damn that wind & water! Damn that military occupation of NO.

You're so insensitive vinman!

I'm sorry . I guess its all those yrs I spent at the Leona Helmsley
School of Warmth and Compassion.