Wet Bikes!! Yep that was me, Now you have me tottaly baffled.
The "free" is the electricity to your home and not the actual ownership of the device. Regulation, yes this has been a very long process with many hoops jumped through thus far and jus a few little one left. note; that dam bizzarefun website is my friends ,and only hosting my space . in NO way assoc. with the novelty items.

Later peeps

this generator aside, in CA you can sell electricity back to the grid, its state law. Those with solar cells often turn their meter backwards, at some fairly high $/kw price. don't believe in the perpetual motion machine being posted here.

Heck with the free electricity. I want this!
Found it on the same site!
Triple Your Auto Gas Mileage
Run your car on 80% water and 20% gas

I attended a demonstration of the new engine conversion technology and I have to admit, I was blown away. I saw firsthand a car and a van each running on a combination of 80% water and 20% gas.
What are the benefits?
Reduce your fuel consumption up to 500%!
Increase engine life dramatically!
Enjoy a dramatic increase in power!
Go a year between oil changes!
Cut your car's pollution to practically zero!


How it works:

Blah, blah plasma generator..
Cool!
:)

" the generator puts out 80% more power than is required to run the permanent magnet motor that actually drives the gen. shaft. "
ROTFLMAO!
When I was in elementary school, I came up with this one. However, the laws of physics have not yet been repealed in this corner of the universe.
P.T. Barnham was right.
Sounds to me like a fund-raising effort for a snake-oil salesman.
Caveat emptor!
Les

About 20 yrs ago I went to a "demonstration" in Phila with my Dad to check out a similar scam, ahem, "device", that was billed EXACTLY like this - perpetual motion, blah blah blah. I forget the "inventors" name, Jim something I think, but somewhere I have the documentation on the psuedo-science behind the machine, which is of course, all bunk. The laws of physics are hard to break.

Can you defy gravity? That is also a law of physics!!

Boy, everyone here should have their own doctrate degree.

One can believe what ever he wants forever but, that doesn't mean that it is true.

out!

Err... no, I don't think you can. Or am I missing something?

Sit in the back of a c130 doing "zero gravity" manuevers.
Time window, yes, but it was still done. there are exeptions to many rules.

Out!

"Can you defy gravity? That is also a law of physics!!"
Actually, gravity is a phenomenon. There are laws and formulae to describe and predict how it works. Gravity may be overcome by exerting a greater force in opposition.

"Boy, everyone here should have their own doctrate degree."
A doctorate degree is not required if one's Bovine Excrement Detector is functioning.

"One can believe what ever he wants forever but, that doesn't mean that it is true."
I think this applies quite well to the perpetual motion generator.

"out!"
Promise?

If I have offended another board member, I apologize. I feel one is free to believe what you want. However, if you show up on my doorstep (either literally or electronically) and attempt to peddle your variety of hokum, my response tends to escalate from mild amusement to "Get a life!" in a few easy steps.
Les

Umm...
Not zero gravity.:rolleyes:
Using gravity to free fall within the confines of an aircraft.
Didn't think the vomit-comet was a c-130...ever
Thought the current model is a KC-135...

oldE I ain' t peddalin ***** holmes. You asked about defying gravity and I simply gave an example.

I got your promise right here

Dhoward. first c130, yes, I was there. Zero gravity manuevers within gravitational forces. like I said an exeption to another rule.

Reino757,
You are embarrasing yourself.

"Sit in the back of a c130 doing "zero gravity" manuevers.
Time window, yes, but it was still done. there are exeptions to many rules."

"Zero Gravity" under these conditions is an illusion that works because you are falling at the exact speed as the aircraft in which you are a passenger. It seems like you are floating, but this was achieved by flying the aircraft through a parabolic curve which accellerates you upward, then dives (initially) at the rate of gravitational accelleration.
At no time during the "zero Gravity" experience does gravity stop exerting force upon your body.

I sincerely hope you have been duped into believing the generator nonsense and will recover before you lose money and friends. I would really not like to think you were just trying to scam a bunch of fellow 'Pelicans'.
All the best to you.
Les

I can't believe anyone would be this stupid.

Someone should toss Reino757 out of the back of a C130 (sans parachute) to test his 'zero gravity' theory. If he lives, then we'll go to his fundraiser.

Hey!! Your best publicity would be to outfit lots of houses in hurricane ravished areas post storm. Show the country what you can do. Like I said where were you in Sept. '04 when I was without power for 20 days? If I could unhook my house from the power grid permenantly I would ba a happy man.

Thanks OldE. I am aware of how it works.
This was and is not a scam. There is no money to put up , only the chance to show/prove this technology via a live demonstration.
simple and straight forward.
Many cannot grasp the idea of kinectic energy being a partial power source, but that's ok.

Reino..................out

guys, don't scare him off yet. This has the potential to be even greater than the electric supercharger threads. SmileWavy

Reino,

A fundamental law of physics is :Energy may be converted from form to form but can neither be created or destroyed.
If you are talking about using a motor to accelerate a flywheel which will then help the motor overcome the mechanical drag of a generator, I hope you realize you will get less energy out of the thing than you put into it.
The energy loss occurs in several places:
1/ Losses converting electrical potential into mechanical within the motor. You will give up energy through friction in your bearings, inefficiencies within your conductors (even superconductors lose energy) and drag (although you could put the whole thing in a vacuum to reduce that somewhat)
2/ Frictional losses. I don't care if you use magenetic levitation (where are you going to get the power for that?) or air bearings (so much for your vacuum), anything spinning loses momentum. The earth is slowing down.
3/ Converting your mechanical energy back to electricity. Even if your generator was 99.9% efficient, driven by a motor which shares its efficiency, you have wasted energy.

I have a small flashlight which converts kinetic energy into electricity to light a small incandescent bulb. I am not disputing the fact it functions. However if you think any device of this nature can pull energy out of the cosmos, I sincerely hope you haven't wasted the money on tickets to go see this thing.

Hold the phone. I had another look at the link with what I suspect is your name at the bottom of the contact link. I don't feel as sorry for you now.

Les

Curiosity deems me to ask, why don't you market this to a large company like GE? With this revolutionary technology I can't imagine why a mainstream corportaion would jump all over it. ;)

Here's one:
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