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reino757 02-05-2006 12:39 PM

Does anyone want a free generator?
 
Yep, there could be a device coming to market this year; a generator powered partly by Kinetic energy! The first 1.6 mil. people that sign up to witness the technology are allotted the FREE use of said device and will NEVER have to pay another electric bill... This sounds too good to be true, but I do believe it will happen this year!!! here's the link for more info.........http://www.bizarrefun.com/FreeElectricity.htm

cashflyer 02-05-2006 02:46 PM

I hope you did some research on the company and the people behind it. And maybe some research on the laws of physics, which according to Scotty, cannot be changed.

http://data.middletennessee.bbb.org/bindrreport.html?fax=Y&bid=11101115&gid=0&gen=0&li d=1

red-beard 02-05-2006 05:56 PM

Did someone ask for me?

M.D. Holloway 02-05-2006 06:55 PM

Red, shed some lite here. Asz, gas or grass...no one rides for free.

ubiquity0 02-05-2006 07:05 PM

"Please change "Recruiter Name" to James Reinkoester."

...yeah right reino757 :rolleyes:

Maybe you should try your pyramid scamming somewhere else?

red-beard 02-05-2006 07:13 PM

Just note my tag line: Ya canna change the laws of Physics.

Unfortunately, they won't disclose what they are talking about, except in person. "Free" energy always has a source.

Geez, what was the name of that wacko group hanging around the airports in the 80's. I think it started with an 'L".

M.D. Holloway 02-05-2006 07:14 PM

Isn't there a pyramid thread going on? How timely!

reino757, dude, did you really think that this scam would have legs on this site? Half the clowns here have more degrees than a thermometer and the other half are *****'n genius's's's.

I will make a friendly bet to any takers that reino757 does not post again. In fact, I think we have heard the last of reino757. Takers?

Dantilla 02-05-2006 08:21 PM

If I were reino757, I would take you up on the bet and post one more time. That's the only way he'll get anything from the Pelicanheads.

cstreit 02-06-2006 04:19 AM

...after you buy the generator, please come here and buy the "miracle gas pill" that extends your mileage by 50% through ENZYMES.

...gotta love them enzymes.. :D

http://www.gasprofits.com/fuelincome/

Jims5543 02-06-2006 06:39 AM

I am gonna play guinea pig here. I submitted my office address and phone #. I'll post up what I find out.

I am all about FREE. Bring it to me.

Dantilla 02-06-2006 08:19 AM

I didn't bother going to the link. Just his opening post was enough to set my BS meter off the scale.

reino757 02-06-2006 08:22 AM

Lube...you lost your bet.
Jim... you are not a guinea pig bt don't wast my time if you are just playing games ...these will be for 15% of "residences" NOT your businesses AKA office addr.

Why do I even bother. Therories are just that. everything is theory until proven. then, they become facts. ie; flight, wireless calls,electricity. and Yes I'v'e done my homework. actually quite a bit of it. As far as nothing for free, well that is partially true. first there is sunlight, oxygen etc....now in the business world that is a different matter. the publics knowledge has a known value. Ideas cannot be supressed totally if. a critical mass has knowledge. (that is why your knowledge would be of some value)
As far as "a pyramid scheme".. nope, a pyramid has multi-level marketing and this does NOT. I am sorry we have so many know it all's here. I guess us motorcycle enthusiast have alot of the same traits as the general public. at least I tried to help some..... I await the future with hope not cynicism.

Reino....................out

notfarnow 02-06-2006 08:24 AM

spell check

Icemaster 02-06-2006 08:35 AM

Subscribed...

I want to see where this one goes.

oldE 02-06-2006 08:44 AM

"Reino....................out"

Let's hope so. I can guess : You are invited to a 'disclosure' meeting, at which you are invited to become an investor. Then, after a year or so, they give you 'use' of a combo solar cell/wind generator which might keep a 996's battery charged, but won't let you run the microwave in your home.
Great for sheep: Their fleece grows back! ;)
Les

M.D. Holloway 02-06-2006 10:00 AM

Ya know, the *****'n sad thing is, this moron takes it personal. Maybe he has something maybe he doesn't. Chances are he doesn't.

But getting back to free...hay Reino, I have sent gallon after gallon of the best engine oil your p-car will ever drink to dozens of folks on this site and backed it up with real science not just some weak *****. To date, I have never spammed them or asked for money - us guys are buds and family and you don't ***** over buds or family and if someone is skeptical they have every right to be especially if you go bouncing around with a silly arse claim.

Show us some of the science and trials, publications and any university action and maybe you will gain some credibility.

BTW – which Porsche do you own?

Jims5543 02-06-2006 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reino757
Lube...you lost your bet.
Jim... you are not a guinea pig bt don't wast my time if you are just playing games ...these will be for 15% of "residences" NOT your businesses AKA office addr.
Reino....................out

My office happens to be a house. It uses approx. $125 a month in electricity.

My office/house which is on a major thoroughfare and would generate (no pun intended) a lot of free exposure.

If it works there, I would be happy to purchase one for my house.

Where the hell were you guys when we needed you in 2004. I went 20 days in Sept. 2004 without power.

Bring me the free stuff.

M.D. Holloway 02-06-2006 01:40 PM

If this guy is a con man fine – give it your best shot. If you can outwit me and get into my wallet you deserve it.

If this guy is a fool on an errand, take it else where. I hope he is a scammer because the last thing the world needs is another fool!

reino757 02-06-2006 01:56 PM

Jim....As long as it is your house the that's all good.
This is merely an offer for the public to witness this tech. (then it will be more likely, ie. harder for powers to be to suppress with public knowledge)
Lube..I'm not taking any of this personal...even your "moron" coment...well maybe that one did a little, anyway the science and trials are ongoing but will not be public due to the current laws that are here to
"protect" the consumer. That is precisely the reason for doing a nationwide demo simultaneously. To prove this technology to any who is intrested.
basically... a generating device that "once up to speed" is partially run by Kinetic energy, the generator puts out 80% more power than is required to run the permanent magnet motor that actually drives the gen. shaft. The exess K.W. is sold to the power grid "aka dregulation 1996" and in turn produces revenue. These will be at a price if and when they ever get to market but free to the initial 10% of the allotted 16 mil. residences in North America.

Reino................out
"if ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?"

cashflyer 02-06-2006 02:04 PM

<--- edited some stuff right here --->

I like Nikola's research, and believe that he was really on to some important stuff. But there is still that pesky law of physics that says that there's not a chance in hell that it will ever work...

But let's just imagine that it does. Or will.

Do you have any idea what kind of regulatory headache you would be in for?? Sure, you can run a generator at your home without even so much as a nod from your HOA. But one of the stipulations of the "free generator" deal is that you sell back to the local electric company your unused electricity (you want that in paper or plastic?). Now you are in business. But not just a business selling junk novelty items - you are a UTILITY.

Now I'm no expert, since I always shot for the blue boxes and the railroads, but I have to believe that the average schmo is going to be waaaay in over his head - and will probably incur more regulatory expenses than the cost of free electricity will ever offset.

I know I really want an OSHA inspection in my home generator facility /slash/ two car garage....

reino757 02-06-2006 02:19 PM

Wet Bikes!! Yep that was me, Now you have me tottaly baffled.
The "free" is the electricity to your home and not the actual ownership of the device. Regulation, yes this has been a very long process with many hoops jumped through thus far and jus a few little one left. note; that dam bizzarefun website is my friends ,and only hosting my space . in NO way assoc. with the novelty items.

Later peeps

Hugh R 02-06-2006 02:23 PM

this generator aside, in CA you can sell electricity back to the grid, its state law. Those with solar cells often turn their meter backwards, at some fairly high $/kw price. don't believe in the perpetual motion machine being posted here.

dhoward 02-06-2006 03:49 PM

Heck with the free electricity. I want this!
Found it on the same site!
Triple Your Auto Gas Mileage
Run your car on 80% water and 20% gas

I attended a demonstration of the new engine conversion technology and I have to admit, I was blown away. I saw firsthand a car and a van each running on a combination of 80% water and 20% gas.
What are the benefits?
Reduce your fuel consumption up to 500%!
Increase engine life dramatically!
Enjoy a dramatic increase in power!
Go a year between oil changes!
Cut your car's pollution to practically zero!


How it works:


Blah, blah plasma generator..
Cool!
:)

oldE 02-07-2006 03:44 AM

" the generator puts out 80% more power than is required to run the permanent magnet motor that actually drives the gen. shaft. "
ROTFLMAO!
When I was in elementary school, I came up with this one. However, the laws of physics have not yet been repealed in this corner of the universe.
P.T. Barnham was right.
Sounds to me like a fund-raising effort for a snake-oil salesman.
Caveat emptor!
Les

Paul T 02-07-2006 03:58 AM

About 20 yrs ago I went to a "demonstration" in Phila with my Dad to check out a similar scam, ahem, "device", that was billed EXACTLY like this - perpetual motion, blah blah blah. I forget the "inventors" name, Jim something I think, but somewhere I have the documentation on the psuedo-science behind the machine, which is of course, all bunk. The laws of physics are hard to break.

reino757 02-07-2006 05:35 AM

Can you defy gravity? That is also a law of physics!!

Boy, everyone here should have their own doctrate degree.

One can believe what ever he wants forever but, that doesn't mean that it is true.

out!

notfarnow 02-07-2006 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reino757
Can you defy gravity?
Err... no, I don't think you can. Or am I missing something?

reino757 02-07-2006 05:56 AM

Sit in the back of a c130 doing "zero gravity" manuevers.
Time window, yes, but it was still done. there are exeptions to many rules.

Out!

oldE 02-07-2006 06:24 AM

"Can you defy gravity? That is also a law of physics!!"
Actually, gravity is a phenomenon. There are laws and formulae to describe and predict how it works. Gravity may be overcome by exerting a greater force in opposition.

"Boy, everyone here should have their own doctrate degree."
A doctorate degree is not required if one's Bovine Excrement Detector is functioning.

"One can believe what ever he wants forever but, that doesn't mean that it is true."
I think this applies quite well to the perpetual motion generator.

"out!"
Promise?

If I have offended another board member, I apologize. I feel one is free to believe what you want. However, if you show up on my doorstep (either literally or electronically) and attempt to peddle your variety of hokum, my response tends to escalate from mild amusement to "Get a life!" in a few easy steps.
Les

dhoward 02-07-2006 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reino757
Sit in the back of a c130 doing "zero gravity" manuevers.
Time window, yes, but it was still done. there are exeptions to many rules.

Out!

Umm...
Not zero gravity.:rolleyes:
Using gravity to free fall within the confines of an aircraft.
Didn't think the vomit-comet was a c-130...ever
Thought the current model is a KC-135...

reino757 02-07-2006 06:37 AM

oldE I ain' t peddalin ***** holmes. You asked about defying gravity and I simply gave an example.

I got your promise right here

reino757 02-07-2006 06:41 AM

Dhoward. first c130, yes, I was there. Zero gravity manuevers within gravitational forces. like I said an exeption to another rule.

oldE 02-07-2006 06:54 AM

Reino757,
You are embarrasing yourself.

"Sit in the back of a c130 doing "zero gravity" manuevers.
Time window, yes, but it was still done. there are exeptions to many rules."

"Zero Gravity" under these conditions is an illusion that works because you are falling at the exact speed as the aircraft in which you are a passenger. It seems like you are floating, but this was achieved by flying the aircraft through a parabolic curve which accellerates you upward, then dives (initially) at the rate of gravitational accelleration.
At no time during the "zero Gravity" experience does gravity stop exerting force upon your body.

I sincerely hope you have been duped into believing the generator nonsense and will recover before you lose money and friends. I would really not like to think you were just trying to scam a bunch of fellow 'Pelicans'.
All the best to you.
Les

widebody911 02-07-2006 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reino757
Sit in the back of a c130 doing "zero gravity" manuevers.
Time window, yes, but it was still done. there are exeptions to many rules.

I can't believe anyone would be this stupid.

Someone should toss Reino757 out of the back of a C130 (sans parachute) to test his 'zero gravity' theory. If he lives, then we'll go to his fundraiser.

Jims5543 02-07-2006 07:11 AM

Hey!! Your best publicity would be to outfit lots of houses in hurricane ravished areas post storm. Show the country what you can do. Like I said where were you in Sept. '04 when I was without power for 20 days? If I could unhook my house from the power grid permenantly I would ba a happy man.

reino757 02-07-2006 07:11 AM

Thanks OldE. I am aware of how it works.
This was and is not a scam. There is no money to put up , only the chance to show/prove this technology via a live demonstration.
simple and straight forward.
Many cannot grasp the idea of kinectic energy being a partial power source, but that's ok.

Reino..................out

bryanthompson 02-07-2006 07:17 AM

guys, don't scare him off yet. This has the potential to be even greater than the electric supercharger threads. SmileWavy

oldE 02-07-2006 07:45 AM

Reino,

A fundamental law of physics is :Energy may be converted from form to form but can neither be created or destroyed.
If you are talking about using a motor to accelerate a flywheel which will then help the motor overcome the mechanical drag of a generator, I hope you realize you will get less energy out of the thing than you put into it.
The energy loss occurs in several places:
1/ Losses converting electrical potential into mechanical within the motor. You will give up energy through friction in your bearings, inefficiencies within your conductors (even superconductors lose energy) and drag (although you could put the whole thing in a vacuum to reduce that somewhat)
2/ Frictional losses. I don't care if you use magenetic levitation (where are you going to get the power for that?) or air bearings (so much for your vacuum), anything spinning loses momentum. The earth is slowing down.
3/ Converting your mechanical energy back to electricity. Even if your generator was 99.9% efficient, driven by a motor which shares its efficiency, you have wasted energy.

I have a small flashlight which converts kinetic energy into electricity to light a small incandescent bulb. I am not disputing the fact it functions. However if you think any device of this nature can pull energy out of the cosmos, I sincerely hope you haven't wasted the money on tickets to go see this thing.

Hold the phone. I had another look at the link with what I suspect is your name at the bottom of the contact link. I don't feel as sorry for you now.

Les

TerryBPP 02-07-2006 07:57 AM

Curiosity deems me to ask, why don't you market this to a large company like GE? With this revolutionary technology I can't imagine why a mainstream corportaion would jump all over it. ;)

notfarnow 02-07-2006 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by oldE
A doctorate degree is not required if one's Bovine Excrement Detector is functioning.

Here's one:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1139332940.gif


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