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HardDrive 03-14-2006 10:57 AM

Imposter by Bruce Bartlett
 
Every conservative should read this book and do some soul searching.

Just how far are you willing to go to support Bush? How many of your core values are you willing to violate?

Balanced budgets?
Smaller Government?
Less government regulation?
Less government intrusion?

Mr. Barlett lays out in grim detail the damage that Bush as done, not only to our country, but to the memory of Regan.

Its a great read. Bartlett writes clearly and lays his case out well.

Impostor : How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy
Publisher: Doubleday (February 21, 2006)
Language: English
ISBN: 0385518277

BlueSkyJaunte 03-14-2006 11:04 AM

God told him to.

lendaddy 03-14-2006 11:24 AM

He has let us down in some ways, yes. Mostly economic/spending issues. I don't think he had to spend as much as he did to appease the Dems but I know that was the goal. I think he learned a lesson, they will/do hate him no matter how much he gives them. So for me it's kinda like that Chris Rock on OJ skit.

"I ain't sayin what he did was right.....but I understand"

fastpat 03-14-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
He has let us down in some ways, yes. Mostly economic/spending issues.
I wish you were joking, but unfortunately I know that you're not. Bush and the Bush'ists have endangered America and Americans more than any president since Roosevelt. His immorality is staggering.

I don't hate Bush, he simply disgusts me the same way a child rapist disgusts me.

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I don't think he had to spend as much as he did to appease the Dems but I know that was the goal. I think he learned a lesson, they will/do hate him no matter how much he gives them. So for me it's kinda like that Chris Rock on OJ skit.

"I ain't sayin what he did was right.....but I understand"
Bush and the Bush'ists are a living, breathing catastrophe for America.

Jamie79SC 03-14-2006 01:53 PM

Appease the Dems? He has a majority in both houses. The Republicans spent that money.

aap1966 03-14-2006 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat

I don't hate Bush, he simply disgusts me the same way a child rapist disgusts me.




Nothing disgusts me as much as child rape.

stomachmonkey 03-14-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
He has let us down in some ways, yes. Mostly economic/spending issues. I don't think he had to spend as much as he did to appease the Dems but I know that was the goal. I think he learned a lesson, they will/do hate him no matter how much he gives them. So for me it's kinda like that Chris Rock on OJ skit.

"I ain't sayin what he did was right.....but I understand"


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lendaddy 03-14-2006 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by stomachmonkey
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What don't you guys get? Bush gave the "uniter not a divider" the old college try by giving the Dems almost everything they wanted spending wise. Hell, he let Ted Kennedy write the education bill! He thought it would be like back in Texas where he got them Dems to work with him. But the Dems at the federal level hated him regardless, they have to in order to please the wacko base (they fund campaigns).

I never thought it would work and it didn't, but "I understand" why he tried.

P.S. Republicans cannot just do whatever they want with >50% in the Houese and Senate, you need a super-majority for that or........Dems that will work with you.

stomachmonkey 03-14-2006 08:02 PM

I promised I'd stay out of these debates because they are pointless.

Couple of Smirnoffs, my gaurd goes down and I get sucked back in.

So he blows a budget surplus, built up during a democratic administration (which we all know was really the delayed result of Reagenomics) and drives us in record time into the biggest deficit we've ever experienced and he did it all to appease the minority democratic power base?

yeah, whatever.

HardDrive 03-14-2006 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
What don't you guys get? Bush gave the "uniter not a divider" the old college try by giving the Dems almost everything they wanted spending wise. Hell, he let Ted Kennedy write the education bill! He thought it would be like back in Texas where he got them Dems to work with him. But the Dems at the federal level hated him regardless, they have to in order to please the wacko base (they fund campaigns).

I never thought it would work and it didn't, but "I understand" why he tried.

P.S. Republicans cannot just do whatever they want with >50% in the Houese and Senate, you need a super-majority for that or........Dems that will work with you.

I think you should pick up the book. Why is Bush the only president in roughly 190 years that has not exercised a single veto?!?!?!!?

lendaddy 03-15-2006 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by HardDrive
I think you should pick up the book. Why is Bush the only president in roughly 190 years that has not exercised a single veto?!?!?!!?
Because he thought he could purchase cooperation from the Dems. In a few small ways he did, but in the end they hated him even more for it.

Rick Lee 03-15-2006 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by stomachmonkey
I promised I'd stay out of these debates because they are pointless.

Couple of Smirnoffs, my gaurd goes down and I get sucked back in.

So he blows a budget surplus, built up during a democratic administration (which we all know was really the delayed result of Reagenomics) and drives us in record time into the biggest deficit we've ever experienced and he did it all to appease the minority democratic power base?

yeah, whatever.

Surely you jest! You seem to forget this magical surplus was PROJECTED but never realized and wasn't even projected until the GOP took over Congress in '95. Before that, Bubba did a different song and dance every time he was asked about when the budget might get balanced AND he vehemently opposed the Balanced Budget Amend. the Reps. proposed in '95. Surplus a nice term for pols to throw around, but it never actually existed. In fact, the only surplus that really did exist was the Soc. Sec. one that gets spent on non-SS stuff each year and is covered by worthless IOU's.

Otherwise, I am furious with Bush for trying to appease liberals by spending so much money. But no Dem. president would have spent one less dime.

techweenie 03-15-2006 07:26 AM

What a truckload of Bullcr@p.

Please point out one aspect of increased spending by this Republican-controlled administration, Senate and House that was done the "appease Democrats."

Does cognitive dissonance lead to Republicanism, or does Republicanism lead to cognitive dissonance?

Rick Lee 03-15-2006 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie
What a truckload of Bullcr@p.

Please point out one aspect of increased spending by this Republican-controlled administration, Senate and House that was done the "appease Democrats."

Uh, Medicare Presc. Drug Benefit?

lendaddy 03-15-2006 07:38 AM

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techweenie 03-15-2006 07:44 AM

LOL.

So only liberals get the Medicare prescription drug "benefit?" I had no idea. I guess Republicans are supposed to die young?

Actually, that particular bill is the result of a lobbying effort by the drug companies and AARP.

What Democrats wanted was entirely different.

Republicans needed senior citizens' votes and tried to package their industry-architecteded program as beneficial. But from what I hear, it's a disaster.

Rick Lee 03-15-2006 07:48 AM

Tech, twist it any way you want, but it WAS done to appease Dems (aka take an issue of theirs off the table) and get old folks' votes.

CRH911S 03-15-2006 07:56 AM

Quote:

What don't you guys get? Bush gave the "uniter not a divider" the old college try by giving the Dems almost everything they wanted spending wise. Hell, he let Ted Kennedy write the education bill! He thought it would be like back in Texas where he got them Dems to work with him. But the Dems at the federal level hated him regardless, they have to in order to please the wacko base (they fund campaigns).


Lendaddy, nobody, at least seriously, is blaming Bush for the natural disasters in the gulf region. And for what it's worth the drug bill was a gift to the pharma companies. And finally, no-child-left-behind is a gift to Ted Kennedy? OK, if you say so.

Clinton

lendaddy 03-15-2006 07:57 AM

Federal education spending under Bush is up 65%

fastpat 03-15-2006 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
Uh, Medicare Presc. Drug Benefit?
That wasn't done to appease the liberals, that was part and parcel of the Bush'ist plan to take away Democrat voters, and to provide benefits to a large, powerful, voting block of Republicans, those over 65 yoa.

It was the largest increase in welfare in 40 years, putting Bush squarely in the sociofascist camp politically. He originated it, supported it, and signed it.


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