The President is crazy...

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by dd74
But it's being shown that he doesn't exactly have a plan, and things just aren't working out. So I say: WTF?

It has been shown he doesn't have a plan?...Where has that been shown? Was there another leak from some Democrat mole?

Things just aren't working out?...Things couldn't be working out much better, in fact they could be much worse.

You are confusing the Democrats not having a plan with Bush. They are obviously the party without a plan.

[Jared at Pelican Parts]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You say that dripping with bile, like it is not a good thing....You obviously still do drugs and alcohol.

Actually, I say it with laughter. Mainly at how textbook you are.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by Jared Fenton
Actually, I say it with laughter. Mainly at how textbook you are.

Got the munchies too, do ya stoney?

[techweenie]

OBVIOUS TRAITS Persons experiencing a full-blown DRY DRUNK are, for that period, removed from the world of sobriety; they fail, for whatever reason, to accept the necessary conditions for sober living. Their mental and emotional homes are chaotic, their approach to everyday living is unrealistic, and their behavior, both verbal and physical, is unacceptable.

This lack of sober realism manifests itself in many ways.

1. Grandiosity, put very simply, is an exaggeration of one's own importance. This can be demonstrated either in terms of one's strengths or weaknesses. In either case it is blatantly self- seeking or self-serving, putting oneself at the center of attention, from the "big me" who has ask the answers to the "poor me" whose cup of self-pity runneth over and wants all of our attention.

2. Judgmentalism is mutually related to grandiosity. It means that the alcoholic is prone to make value judgments - strikingly inappropriate evaluations - usually in terms of "goodness" or "badness".

3. Intolerance leaves no room for delaying the gratification of personal desires. This is accomplished by gross confusion of priorities with the result that a mere whim or passing fancy is mistakenly given more importance than genuine personal needs.

4. Impulsivity is the result of intolerance or the lack of ability to delay gratification of personal desires. Impulsivity describes behavior which is heedless of the ultimate consequence for self or others.

5. Indecisiveness is related to impulsitivity in the sense that while the latter takes no realistic account of the consequences of the actions, the former precludes effective action altogether. Indecisiveness stems from an unrealistic exaggeration of the negative possibilities of the action ; so one wavers between two or more possible courses of action, more times than not- nothing gets done.

These conditions, grandiosity, judgmentalism, intolerance ,impulsivity, and indecisiveness taken separately or together can lead to the following: a) Mood swings, which are unrelated to the circumstances to which one tries to link them. Alcoholics zero in on what they want others to think is the cause of the mood swing, when it isn't that at all. More often than not it is something much deeper than the reason given. Inversely it can also be something totally insignificant with no substance at all (e.g. the sugar is too sweet or the donut is too round). Any excuse will do. b) Unable to demonstrate emotions freely, naturally and without constraint. No emotional spontaneity, no genuine spark. c) Introspection. A very healthy thing to do is difficult if not impossible for the "dry drunk". It means to look inward to one's examining each thought and desire, which is linked directly to one's attitude. d) Detachment. Become aloof, display indifference, don't care one way or the other, no special likes or dislikes, they withdraw. e) Self-absorption- with a tendency to call attention to whatever they have attained. Narcissism which is quite simply self-love. They become pompous asses. f) The inability to appreciate or enjoy themselves - nothing satisfies. g) Evidence of disorganization, is easily distracted, complains of boredom, and nothing seems to fit. h) A nostalgia sets in, a kind of wistful yearning for something of the past, such as freedom from care associated (falsely) with drinking, bars, drinking associates, and friends; the music, blue lights, and tinkle of the ice cubes in a glass in the neighborhood saloon. i) There can be a kind of romanticism, which includes unrealistic valuations of lifestyles and character traits which can be and usually are objectively dangerous to one's sobriety. j) Escapism. Fantasizing, daydreaming, and wishful thinking are very much in evidence in the dry drunk syndrome as the individual slips farther and farther from reality.

[techweenie]

Since the abnormality of the alcoholic's attitudes and behavior during the drinking career is generally recognized, the persistence or these character traits after stopping drinking (or the reappearance after an interlude of sobriety) is equally abnormal.

The term "dry drunk" therefore denotes the absences of favorable change in the attitudes and behavior of the alcoholic who is not drinking, or the reversion of these by the alcoholic who has experienced a period of successful sobriety. From these conditions, it is to be inferred that the alcoholic is experiencing discomfort in life.

The self-destructive attitudes and behavior of the dry drunk alcoholic are different in degree but not in kind. The alcoholic, when drinking, has learned to rely on a deeply inadequate, radically immature approach to solving life's problems. And this is exactly what one sees in the dry drunk.

ANALYSIS OF DRY DRUNK BEHAVIOR The alcoholic who rationalizes their own irresponsible behavior are also likely to find fault in the attitudes and behavior of others. Although not denying their own shortcomings, they attempt to escape notice by cataloging in great detail the transgressions of others.

The classic maneuver of the dry drunk is over-reaction. The alcoholic may attach a seemingly disproportionate intensity of feeling to an ordinary insignificant event or mishap.

Some alcoholics who experience the dry drunk seem to know all the answers, are seldom at a loss for words when it comes to self-diagnosis. Their knowledge is quite impressive, their apparent insight, as opposed to genuine insight, is convincing.

[Jared at Pelican Parts]

you can do better than that Mul..

come on.. show me the results of your years of self-hatred, insecurity and addiction. lemme guess, daddy left when you were real young..

[dd74]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
It has been shown he doesn't have a plan?...Where has that been shown? Was there another leak from some Democrat mole?

Things just aren't working out?...Things couldn't be working out much better, in fact they could be much worse.

You are confusing the Democrats not having a plan with Bush. They are obviously the party without a plan.

Then enlighten those without light: what's the plan?

[kach22i]

Bush = DRY DRUNK

I've been saying that since 2002.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Fastpaste says Bush is crazy as he dresses up as a junior GI Joe wannabe, polishes his arsenal of weapons and stocks his own personal bunker...

You're such a silly goose.

[MichiganMat]

Yup, classic dry drunk. Is it any wonder that so many so called "ex-addicts" become vehemently religious. I had a youth minister who was a coke-addict, been dry for a few years, and you could tell he was just dying for a hit. My buddys brother "was" an addict, he's since opened the "All Consuming Flame of God Baptist Church".

Putting down the bottle is only the first part, and arguably the easiest part, of recovery. Resolving the attitude that leads the addict to drink or use is the second, third, forth... part.

In all fairness, Clinton and JFK were both children of alcoholics which brings it own set of issues, none so destructive or reckless, in my view, as being an outright addict though.

[cowtown]

Originally posted by fastpat
No, the methods of reaching a diagnosis for the two patients is completely different. In fact, diagnosis of Bush could be done by remote interview, or exactly like Dr. Frank did, from hours of Bush video.

In the Schiavo case, both a personal examination and CAT scans would likely be required, since her disease was completely different.

Frist was performing politics, not medicine when he spoke; almost everyone knew that; and now you do as well.

Thanks for clueing us all in to what "almost everyone" in your parallelo-alternate reality "already knows."

[Mulhollanddose]

Opinion requires knowledge, without knowledge opinion is meaningless...the last few posts demonstrate this effectively.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Opinion requires knowledge, without knowledge opinion is meaningless...the last few posts demonstrate this effectively.

That's what I like about you, Mul-berry, you always provide your own example within your writing.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by cowtown
Thanks for clueing us all in to what "almost everyone" in your parallelo-alternate reality "already knows."

I see, you must be a part of the group we call "the 4%'ers". That's the group that never "gets it", and is then angry and embarassed when they find out.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by MichiganMat
Yup, classic dry drunk. Is it any wonder that so many so called "ex-addicts" become vehemently religious. I had a youth minister who was a coke-addict, been dry for a few years, and you could tell he was just dying for a hit. My buddys brother "was" an addict, he's since opened the "All Consuming Flame of God Baptist Church".

Putting down the bottle is only the first part, and arguably the easiest part, of recovery. Resolving the attitude that leads the addict to drink or use is the second, third, forth... part.

In all fairness, Clinton and JFK were both children of alcoholics which brings it own set of issues, none so destructive or reckless, in my view, as being an outright addict though.

Agreed, although not to the extent that the Adult Children of Alcoholics movement in the '80s claimed. They laid every modern aliment at the feet of 'victims' parents. Sooner or later you have to steer your own ship.

Another aspect of addiction is that it interrupts the maturation process. So somebody who gets into substance abuse in his/her teens may never finish the mental and emotional devleopment that was interrupted. You see examples of this all around...

[Moneyguy1]

I don't have any generalities to add.

All I can say is I had a number of years that I was married to an alcoholic and prescription drug abuser (now deceased, rest her soul) who, after going through a month of drying out in a center, did not drink anymore, but turned to religion and my evenings and weekends were spent listening to "praise the Lord" tapes. She became judgemental, authoritative, extremely opinionated and got extremely upset if anyone told her she was wrong on anything. A counselor advised me that one addiction (alcohol) can be substituted by another (religion) in many cases. According to the staff at the place she sobered up, many alcoholics are simply addicts, needing something to be addicted to, and many are emotionally immature or regress over time.

BTW...CAT scans showed physical changes that could be readily attributed to the drugs and alcohol. The changes, according to her doctor were permanent and irreversable and she ultimately died of an cerebral aneurism.

[bigchillcar]

bob..that's a tragic story. my condolences..god knows you must have gone through years of hell in the marriage. poor woman..doubtless she suffered greatly, too..unable to break away from the addiction cycle. what a terrible tragedy to have had to experience..
ryan

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by Jared Fenton
come on.. show me the results of your years of self-hatred, insecurity and addiction. lemme guess, daddy left when you were real youn

Keep on tokin' bro. We will see who laughs last.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Keep on tokin' bro. We will see who laughs last.

Bad case of projection, typical.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
A counselor advised me that one addiction (alcohol) can be substituted by another (religion) in many cases. According to the staff at the place she sobered up, many alcoholics are simply addicts, needing something to be addicted to, and many are emotionally immature or regress over time.

That's an awful story, Bob.

I've seen that in real life too, fortunately not with anyone close.