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While I agree with Jeff on what the Bandit 1200 is capable of, which is being a touring/sports/hooligan bike, although I think the GSXR either 85-88 or 99-to date (not the "Slingshots" ) will corner better, for a novice it's a bit too much. The Suzuki SV650 sounds about the right place to start as it will work in the city or out on the freeway.

I started (a long time ago) on a Yamaha RD250..now have a Kawasaki ZRX1100

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Old 07-09-2006, 04:36 PM
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Something used, something light weight, and something with a friendly powerband. This way you can get a *starter* bike and turn it a year later for little to no loss.

Figure to spend $700+ on riding gear before you ever hit the start button. Helmet, jacket, boots, gloves, sturdy pants, and eye protection are requirements. If you balk at spending the money consider how long $1K lasts in the emergency room and how, if you suffer a misfortune, you wished you spent the money on good protective gear.
Old 07-09-2006, 07:27 PM
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Thanks all for the help.

I compare riding a bike to a more risky version of taking my 930 to the track - where I have a suit, a full face Arai helmet, gloves, and a HANS device - !
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Old 07-10-2006, 08:32 AM
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1985 Ducati Mike Hailwood 1000 Mille!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just kidding. I seriously think a 1994-present Kawasaki EX500 or 89+ Suzuki GS500e (or F if you must have the 04+ fully faired version) is the way to go.

Cheap, ride the wheels off it, and sell it for what you paid.
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Old 07-10-2006, 09:20 AM
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My biggest advice beside taking a rider safety class is assume you are invisible because you are. Nobody will see you, so you have to see them and expect them to pull in front of you or change lanes into you. It took me two street crashes 20 years ago for it to really sink in.
Was following behind two harleys (in line) yesterday - giving them plenty of space. At a merge a large SUV came barreling over (most likey looking at the first one and me in his rearview) and almost creamed the second one. The rider revved it up and scared the truck away - but man, that was close... A bad mix, that was scary..
Old 07-10-2006, 09:52 AM
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Alternatively, start with something old and cool which you can later modify into something even cooler. Start with something like an early '70s Honda CB 350 (a clean one on Craig's List for about $1500), and learn to ride it. Then install clip-ons (low handle bars), core out the mufflers, and get sticky tires. Now you have a very cool vintage cafe-racer that is fun to ride, cheap to maintain, rare and attractive, and less likely to get you killed. I'm about to do this to an extra CL 160 I have, just for kicking around.
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Hmm, I hear ya. I live near Smellvue (Kirkland) and I see quite a few vintage bikes around anymore - early 70s
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Craig

Did you ever get a bike? I'm in the same boat now, and the same bikes keep popping up. Curious to see your experience.
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Old 08-22-2006, 06:26 PM
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I've on hold for a bit - just picked up a "motorcycle Operators Manual" from the DMV today however.....
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"930 is the wild slut you sleep with who tries to kill you every time you "get it on" - Quote by Gabe
Movie: 930 on the dyno
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Not that I'm an evangelist now, but budget $1200 for gear. Seriously. Way more important than what it says on the side of the tank.

Boots: get serious street boots. I like Sidi, Alpinestars makes good ones too. Figure about $200 plus or minus

Jacket: Leather with armor. Perforated is nice as it helps keep you cooler, and a zip out vest is a nice touch. I don't like a full zip out liner as it tends to make the arms loose when the liner is out, and loose means the armor can shift during a crash. About $350.

Pants: Leather is preferable, but if you are wearing jeans then a good over pant with tough mesh and padding should be good enough. But don't just do jeans. And I don't believe in the "Draggin Jeans" or other reinforced ones. You need toughness all over because you never know what part of your body my slide/hit. About $150 for textile, $250 for leather.

Gloves: good leather ones, specific for motorcycling. I like Alpinestars, and find their lower line ones (under $100) are just fine.

Helmet: goes without saying. I like Shoei because it fits my head well. Fit is critical. You do not want it too tight (causing pain that will distract you) or worse, too loose (so it can mover around on impact). The better brands have different size cheek pads that you can swap out to dial in the fit. I don't believe in cheap ($100) helmets. Just my bias. Figure $400 for a good Shoei or Arai.

If you're not wearing all of that, don't climb on the bike. If you take a passenger and they aren't wearing all of thatk don't take them on the bike.
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oh, and as for the bike, I've got a low miles Ducati that might be available. Totally hot ride, and custom modded for ultra lightweight. I might be able to get some pics tomorrow...
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oh, and as for the bike, I've got a low miles Ducati that might be available. Totally hot ride, and custom modded for ultra lightweight. I might be able to get some pics tomorrow...
A smoking deal?






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A smoking deal?

it's on fire, baby.

I've scraped the price way way down.
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At least it won't cost you an arm and a leg (but maybe a hole in one)?

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More then you are willing to spend but this bike has been good to me. Mechanically speaking. Also, I thought the yellow would help me stand out in traffic and be seen a little more then the rest of the bikes on the road. Let me know if you want more info on it.

http://www.ducsunlimited.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4716

PM or Email me if you want more info or pics...
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:32 AM
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oh, and as for the bike, I've got a low miles Ducati that might be available. Totally hot ride, and custom modded for ultra lightweight. I might be able to get some pics tomorrow...
Don't bite craig - I hear it's coyote ugly.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:58 AM
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Before Todd's little incident I was looking a SV650's and BMW twins on cycle trader... a little alarming how many of them were "damaged".

At forty nine I heal pretty slow so I think I will stick to four wheels for now on.

YMMV
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Whenever I am teaching newbies, one of my first stops is at a M/C junkyard.

75% of the really bad wrecks there are paper plates.
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Bill's yellow Ducati.......ooooh man I like it.....

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"930 is the wild slut you sleep with who tries to kill you every time you "get it on" - Quote by Gabe
Movie: 930 on the dyno
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